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To: Mister Da

The surveillance of foreign commnicatons from suspected enemy sources overseas is not illegal. Every President throughout history has done it. This is not warrantless surviellance of US citizens but instead warrantless surveillance of foreign entities.

If the demorats suspend the ability of the Commander in Chief (usurp his Consitutinal power) in this fashion due to the misconception that you and others have and then we are attacked again there is going to be hell to pay -— and those who caused this with thier misconceptions are going to have to pay it.

Next time it may not be 3000 of us but 300,000 or 3 million. You people who do not understand that the Commander in Chief has the Constitutional power to intercept enemy communications coming in to this country are dangerous nuts, imo. Do you honestly believe that you have a Constitutional right to privacy in regards to your conversation with someone in a cave in Pakistan?


23 posted on 12/23/2008 3:30:08 AM PST by TheBigIf
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To: TheBigIf
My point is this:

We are in a war with terrorists, domestic & foreign. GWB mostly knows who the terrorists are, but the Left in this country are very confused about who the terrorist are.

The liberals make the case that it is the USA. GWB, Israel, & conservatives (rich, white, homophobe racists) who are the terrorists. So, if say, Senator Shelby or Rush or YOU is talking to someone of the same conservative persuasion in a foreign country, Obama & co. have the legal right to record this conversation & use it against you. We are, you are a terrorist in their eyes, so the surveillance laws will likely now be directed at us conservatives.

And since when do our leaders follow the letter & spirit of our laws? Ask Joe the Plumber about that! On the contrary, our leaders on BOTH sides of the aisle & in all 3 branches routinely use their positions to further their own personal, political & partisan greed, with little regard for the constitution or the people.

I don't want the gov’t to have MORE power over our lives - I want them to have less.

Frankly, I would rather have a few bombs go off here in the USA, than to give our gov’t unlimited power to spy on Americans. I'd rather a US police state be blown to Hell. The USA has survived a civil war & several wars w/o the Patriot Act & its "enhancements".

And yes, monitoring conversations between an American citizen & a foreigner is spying on US citizens. Monitoring conversations between foreigners, either here in the USA or abroad is completely OK with me. But if a US citizen is involved, a warrant is required I believe.

Finally, as we are at war, let's take that war to the sources - Pakistan, Iran, Gaza, Syria, Saudi Arabia, & more - rather that play defense on the streets of America, & give unchecked power to our politicians. Many people believe this war on terror will take upwards of 100 years to win, or lose. And already a warrant is not required. Scary!

94 posted on 12/24/2008 6:25:40 AM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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