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Britain has a duty to Arabs [The Moderate Muslim Myth & Israeli "Ruthlessness"]
The London Guardian ^ | December 30, 2008 | Ed Husain

Posted on 12/30/2008 6:09:20 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Last week I was in the Middle East. I was meeting with renowned Muslim scholars, men who lead millions, in a move to condemn extremism and violence. We at the Quilliam Foundation made huge headway, with a high-profile regional event planned next year to help reshape the discourse surrounding Islam and the west.

At home in England, behind the scenes, Muslim leaders were also moving in the same direction. The air was becoming ripe for outright rejection of suicide bombings. Everywhere. Tel Aviv. London. No exceptions.

But now? After Israel's massacre of innocent Palestinians in Gaza, out on the streets of Cairo and Damascus it would be impossible to find credible voices that condemn suicide bombings in Israel. Thanks to its ruthless air strikes and economic blockade of Gaza, Hamas is stronger today than it was last week. Friday sermons across the Muslim world this week will see the worst condemnation of Israel, rightful support for the bealeagured Palestinian peoples – and a boost to the popularity of Hamas by default.

Regardless of political condemnations, the crude reality is that Israel has just helped create a new generation of suicide bombers, prepared to stop at nothing. The ideology that justifies and advocates suicide bombings already exists. Israel though, through its recent actions, has just provided the fire that will now re-ignite this poisoned gas. Prevented for now by Israel's wall and heavy security, the suicide bombers' will to kill, to avenge will not calm. And where there is a will, victims will always find a way to lash out.

I have lived next to a Palestinian refugee camp in Damascus, Syria. I've sat in homes of poor, hospitable Palestinians who_still yearn to return to their homeland, taken by force from them in the turmoil after Britain hurriedly_left Palestine in 1948.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Israel; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: gaza; gazastrip; hamas; islam; israel; jihad; muslims; operationcastlead; taqqiyah
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1 posted on 12/30/2008 6:09:20 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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Pure crap. Arabs are such facile liars.


2 posted on 12/30/2008 6:11:43 AM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Gee. I never heard any Muzzies condemming suicide bombings before. What a Bozo. How would you like a rocket up yours?


3 posted on 12/30/2008 6:12:24 AM PST by screaminsunshine (.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Last week I was in the Middle East. I was meeting with renowned Muslim scholars”...

Isn’t the term “renowned muslim scholars” an oxymoron?


4 posted on 12/30/2008 6:13:02 AM PST by astounded (The democrat party is a clear and present danger to America)
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"Isn’t the term “renowned muslim scholars” an oxymoron?"

In the 12th Century, no. In the 21st Century, pretty much.

5 posted on 12/30/2008 6:16:53 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Barack Obama: In Error and arrogant -- he's errogant!)
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It’s all Israel’s fault. All they have to do to bring about global peace and harmony is to lay down and die. /sarc


6 posted on 12/30/2008 6:18:03 AM PST by basil (Support the 2nd Amendment--buy another gun today)
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IIRC, in the koran, they are allowed to lie, cheat, steal and kill, as long as it advances Islam.


7 posted on 12/30/2008 6:18:50 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Barack Obama: In Error and arrogant -- he's errogant!)
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astounded wrote:

“Last week I was in the Middle East. I was meeting with renowned Muslim scholars”...

Isn’t the term “renowned muslim scholars” an oxymoron?

Not all. but edited from the text was after the author”Ed Husain” finished their meeting they celebrated by going out into the desert and chasing livestock with indecent intent.


8 posted on 12/30/2008 6:21:20 AM PST by redstateconfidential (" An American Idol President")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Muslim scholars? That’s a good one...


9 posted on 12/30/2008 6:21:24 AM PST by jimbo123
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Ed Husain, "Director of the Qulliam Foundation", is either ignorant, stupid, deluded or a liar.

Or possibly some combination thereof.

10 posted on 12/30/2008 6:22:48 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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Israel has just helped create a new generation of suicide bombers

The author probably hasn't caught the cartoons on Pali TV.
11 posted on 12/30/2008 6:23:47 AM PST by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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Is this moron Bahgdad Bob’s cousin? There is only one thing that will stop suicide bombings....a total nuke of Mecca, and every other Islamic holy city when all the Muslims are gathered in one spot. Then a total destruction of every Arab country in the world and the peoplle in it.


12 posted on 12/30/2008 6:29:56 AM PST by Wavrnr10 (Eagles soar....but weasles don't get sucked into jet engines!)
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Ed Husain is his name, does anything else need to be said? He makes it appear as though he was for Israel, but has now changed his mind. What a joke. If you want Palestine to have their own land then cough it up from one of the other Arab countries that have plenty of it.

This do what we say or we will go postal crap is getting really old....really, really old.


13 posted on 12/30/2008 6:33:49 AM PST by Jaime2099
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To: astounded

Like “innocent Palestinians.”


14 posted on 12/30/2008 6:39:51 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A “refugee” since 1948. That’s not a refugee, that’s a bleepin’ idiot. How about, “lives in his mother’s basement” since 1948?


15 posted on 12/30/2008 6:41:41 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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“the crude reality is that Israel has just helped create a new generation of suicide bombers, prepared to stop at nothing.”

In that case Israel needs to just completely clear the Gaza of all arabs and consider it a pre-emptive strike.


16 posted on 12/30/2008 6:53:47 AM PST by rfreedom4u (Political correctness is a form of censorship!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Since my years in Britain, the Guardian has sunk from incredibly dense to unimaginably obtuse.

Methinks we should go ahead and send the majority of our lib arts grads to the UK where they can join those to whom simple logic is a post graduate course.


17 posted on 12/30/2008 6:57:50 AM PST by Da Coyote
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Imagine if the Israelis started lobbing rockets into Gaza like that.

I love how the Arabs are calling this a massacre or even a genocide. If the IDF really wanted to massacre the people in Gaza, I think there would be more than a few hundred dead. Even the Arabs and their apologists admit that most of the casualties are HAMAS militants and operatives.

Gaza is a pus-pocket that needs to be drained every now and then. I strongly recommend against any re-occupation and don’t think it is likely. HAMAS obviously needs to be kept busy, so that is what’s happening.

They don’t negotiate in good faith. Those who are calling for another truce know full well that HAMAS will violate it. They expect Israel to take and take and take these attacks with no response.

Bollocks.


18 posted on 12/30/2008 7:25:23 AM PST by walford (http://the-big-pic.org)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Pan-islamists should be killed en masse.
Are all muslims islamists?


19 posted on 12/30/2008 7:44:43 AM PST by onedoug
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If the left wants Israel to stop bombing the simple solution is to get Hamas to stop firing rockets into their country. It’s really that simple but for some reason the left never seem to mention it.

If the drug cartels in Tijuana started lobbing rockets into San Diego we would respond the same way.

20 posted on 12/30/2008 8:44:34 AM PST by usurper (Spelling or grammatical errors in this post can be attributed to the LA City School System)
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