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2008 Ends Spotless and with 266 Spotless Days...Portends Cooling
Icecap ^ | 12.31.2008 | Joseph D’Aleo CCM, AMS Fellow

Posted on 12/31/2008 9:43:50 AM PST by Entrepreneur

2008 will be coming to a close with yet another spotless days according to the latest solar image.

This will bring the total number of sunspotless days this month to 28 and for the year to 266, clearly enough to make 2008, the second least active solar year since 1900.

The total number of spotless days this spolar minimum is now at around 510 days since the last maximum. The earliest the minimum of the sunspot cycles can be is July 2008, which would make the cycle length 12 years 3 months, longest since cycle 9 in 1848. If the sun stays quiet for a few more months we will rival the early 1800s, the Dalton Minimum which fits with the 213 year cycle which begin with the solar minimum in the late 1790s.

Long cycles are cold and short ones like the ones in the 1980s and 1990s are warm as this analysis by Friis-Christensen in 1991 showed clearly.

In reply to the arguments made that the temperatures after 1990 no longer agreed with solar length, I point out that it was around 1990 when a major global station dropout (many rural) began which led to an exaggeration of the warming in the global temperature data bases. Also the length from max to max of 21 to 22 was 9.7 years and cycle 22 length min to min 9.8 years, both very short suggesting warm temperatures in the 1990s. The interval of cycle 22 max to cycle 23 max centered in the mid 1990s began to increase at 10.7 years and the min to min length of cycle 23 is now at least 12.3 years.

With the Wigley suggested lag of sun to temperatures of 5 years and Landscheidt suggested 8 years, a leveling of should have been favored around 2000-2003 and cooling should be showing up now. Looking ahead, put that together with the flip of the PDO in the Pacific to cold and you have alarming signals that this cooling of the last 7 years will continue and accelerate.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: agw; climatechange; environment; globalwarming; solarcycle24

1 posted on 12/31/2008 9:43:50 AM PST by Entrepreneur
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To: Entrepreneur
Carbon Fusion reactions are as follows: a carbon-12 (12C) nucleus captures a hydrogen nucleus (1H, a proton) to form a nucleus of nitrogen-13 (13N); a gamma ray (γ) is emitted in the process. The nitrogen-13 nucleus emits a positive electron (positron, e+) and becomes carbon-13 (13C). This nucleus captures another proton, becomes nitrogen-14 (14N), and emits another gamma ray. The nitrogen-14 captures a proton to form oxygen-15 (15O); the resulting nucleus ejects a positron as above and is thereby transformed to nitrogen-15 (15N). Eventually, the nitrogen-15 nucleus captures a fast-moving proton and breaks down into a carbon-12 nucleus plus a helium nucleus (alpha particle) of mass 4 (4He).

Looks like there is a carbon link even to solar energy, and I imagine Gore's legions will latch onto this, and I'm tempted to tell them for entertainment value. We just need to discover a mechanism for CO2 uptake into the sun's core ... and ignore everything from the impossibility of that uptake to the pressure-temperature requirements for carbon fusion. That would be no challenge at all for global warming "scientists".

2 posted on 12/31/2008 9:49:51 AM PST by MathDoc (Don't blame me, I voted for Governor Palin and the wrinkly white-haired guy)
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To: Entrepreneur

If I didn’t understand that global cooling is far more destructive than continued warming I would be tempted to gloat to my liberal acquaintances.


3 posted on 12/31/2008 9:54:07 AM PST by saganite
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To: saganite
If I didn’t understand that global cooling is far more destructive than continued warming I would be tempted to gloat to my liberal acquaintances.

Gloat anyway. Then buy a parka.

4 posted on 12/31/2008 9:57:15 AM PST by Flycatcher (Strong copy for a strong America)
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To: saganite

What really honks me off is that I bought 80 acres of farm land near Punxsutawney, PA with the intention of starting a pineapple plantation. Damn you Al Gore!


5 posted on 12/31/2008 9:58:14 AM PST by Jaxter (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum.)
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To: saganite

Well, with global warming, generally a lot more stuff grows. With global cooling, much less grows, much shorter growing times exist. More energy just goes into survival mode rather than anything else.


6 posted on 12/31/2008 10:03:59 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Entrepreneur
All your carbon are belong to us.


7 posted on 12/31/2008 10:05:16 AM PST by TonyStark
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To: MathDoc

Is there a national lefitst idiot museum I can go to? I really need some catharsis for the endless stream of fools that are ruining everything from our courts, to our economy, our schools, and so forth.


8 posted on 12/31/2008 10:06:40 AM PST by Rippin
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To: Entrepreneur

This is what happens if you continue driving your hummers! Our neglect of the Earth’s fragile environment has caused the sun to stop producing sunspots, and the coming ice age is all our fault! If industrialized nations had just recycled more, this could have been prevented!

(Does that sound loony enough to be put into an UN report and change policy in most nations around the world?)


9 posted on 12/31/2008 10:28:18 AM PST by kingu (Party for rent - conservative opinions not required.)
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To: Entrepreneur

Well, it’s been kind of disappointing. Last year I came home on leave - no sunspots at all. This year - no sunspots either. No sunspots since about December 9th or so. If we don’t get some real sunspot activity in the next 6 months, then we may just get another Little Ice Age. Which would be great, because it would put an end to all this global warming junk once and for all. Plus I’m a survivalist at heart :-)


10 posted on 12/31/2008 10:38:15 AM PST by tlj18 (I'm staying Army, no matter who my Commander-in-Chief is!)
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To: Rippin

No, but there are numerous websites like darwinawards.com and stupid criminals TV shows.


11 posted on 12/31/2008 11:09:12 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Obama is living proof that stupid people should not be allowed to vote.)
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To: Entrepreneur; Defendingliberty; WL-law; Genesis defender; proud_yank; FrPR; enough_idiocy; ...
 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

12 posted on 12/31/2008 11:17:18 AM PST by steelyourfaith
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To: aflaak

ping


13 posted on 12/31/2008 12:31:36 PM PST by r-q-tek86 (!edis gnorw eht morf siht ta gnikool era uoY)
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To: Rippin
Is there a national lefitst idiot museum I can go to?


14 posted on 12/31/2008 12:45:38 PM PST by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Requiescat In Pace)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

No, but there are numerous websites like darwinawards.com and stupid criminals TV shows.


Not good enough. I want to memorialize these morons. I want them to know that when they start blowing smoke history will walk by their bust and laugh at their stupidity forever.


15 posted on 12/31/2008 12:46:37 PM PST by Rippin
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To: Flycatcher; saganite
Gloat anyway. Then buy a parka.

*snort* And build a greenhouse to grow your own veggies.

16 posted on 12/31/2008 12:52:26 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Rippin
Not good enough. I want to memorialize these morons. I want them to know that when they start blowing smoke history will walk by their bust and laugh at their stupidity forever.

SirKit and I are pushing to name the next solar minimum the AlGore Minimum, so that after the next Little Ice Age occurs, he can be ridiculed all through climatological history.

17 posted on 12/31/2008 12:55:55 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ

he can be ridiculed all through climatological history


GLORY! That’s what I’m talking about!


18 posted on 12/31/2008 1:01:40 PM PST by Rippin
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To: Rippin
Would you settle for:

National Lefitst Idiot Museum
1200 President Clinton Avenue
Little Rock, Arkansas 72201
General phone number: (501) 374-4242
General facsimile number: (501) 244-2883
Primary E-mail address: clinton.library@nara.gov
Alternate E-mail address: NationalLeftistIdiot.Museum@nara.gov

19 posted on 12/31/2008 6:32:31 PM PST by MathDoc (Don't blame me, I voted for Governor Palin and the wrinkly white-haired guy)
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