Should teachers with concealed weapons permits be allowed to keep firearms in their cars even on school campuses under the state's "bring your guns to work" law?
Should teachers with concealed weapons permits be allowed to keep their firearms on them wherever they go, even in the classroom?
Yes and Yes!
It is only through the systematic infringement by our government(s), of the God-given rights guaranteed us in the U.S. Constitution, that teachers are currently NOT allowed to arm themselves.
It is unclear to ME what part of “...shall not be infringed.” our local, state and federal governments are not understanding.
Because gun grabbers have passed laws that ignore the Second Amendment. How dare this Oldfather speak so much common sense?
We don't like the idea of guns on an airliner but today's reality means pilots are packing heat.
That legislation was passed in the aftermath of September 11, 2001. Imagine trying to get that passed today. Happy New Year!
One approach is very simple, deputize selected teachers and empower them with law enforcement authority.
One approach is very simple, deputize selected teachers and empower them with law enforcement authority.
That term grates on me like fingernails on a chalkboard. I'm thinking about SHOOTING the next reporter who speaks/writes the phrase "packing heat".
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You know, I support having ordinary citizens given concealed carry permission and support the Second Amendment.
But I’m not sure I support allowing teachers to carry guns in the classroom or out of it.
Most of them are anti-Second Amendment left-wing fascist who teach anti-western anti-American socialist propaganda in their classrooms.
I don;t trust them with our educational system and I don’t trust them with guns.
I can’t see any teacher of sound mind bringing a gun into the classroom.
The teacher in in loci parenti responsibilities would be put in a liability situation that is untenable in comparison to the pay scale.
20 to 30 pairs of grubby inquisitive hands at a time, there is just tragedy waiting to be written.
Schools would need to retrofit classrooms to provide secure storage.
Schools will be forced to renegotiate property and casualty, health, and life insurance premiums with insurance carriers.
Schools will be bankrupted in court if there is just one incident of a student acquiring a qualified and insured teacher’s firearm on school grounds.
And further, the more likely a school district is in need of armed teachers, the less likely the school district is financially able to cover the increased liability costs to do so.
So even if in favor of this, it would take a very large reworking of the American school systems to make it work in practice. The legislature can pass any law they want, but unless the law includes liability waivers for school districts, the practical applicatoin of the law is going to maintain the current status quo.
1) Yes
2) In most cases, yes, but it should be up to the school if private, or the public school district deciding on a school-by-school basis. There are some big city public high schools where the classrooms are filled with and controlled by young thugs with long rap sheets and short fuses. Some of them are quite capable of overpowering a teacher, grabbing his/her gun, and shooting somebody, without giving a cr&% about the consequences. Such schools should, of course, have armed guards patrolling the hallways and ready to jump into a classroom when needed, but having the teacher (often a woman with little physical strength) armed and alone in a room with a bunch of street thugs and their pals is asking for trouble.
Not the teachers I know.
Yes and Of Course.
Toto, this is not Kansas.
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In fact had the target been ME I much would have preferred to handle the situation force on force. I have never felt the need of a firearm in any school where I have worked. Some times the neighborhood can be hairy to get in and out of, but that's a separate issue. Still I would like the availability to have my ccw gun to strap on when I leave school.
The presence of a gun would certainly inflame the gang situations in the area and you'd find gang bravado flaring up to come and take the gun to assert their presence. I would say that's fine go ahead and line up except that I wouldn't want all the sheep (kids and faculty) in the line of fire, because that goes against the purpose of being a sheepdog.
I guess what I'm saying is that in my neck of the woods in south Florida, having a gun on a teacher's hip would be much more dangerous than not. But I wouldn't mind having the ability to keep one in my car OR in the alternative just in case of the Colombine scenario, having an access point in the school that is under lock and key as well as hidden that would hold one or more weapons capable of handling that situation, especially in a school where a portion of the faculty are former military.
Right after Colombine, at the school where I was a few years ago, WE ex-military folks had an after school "briefing" wherein we all agreed that a similar situation would not be allowed to occur while we were there. Some of the guys (there were four not including me) were ex special ops with combat experience who said they would be bringing their 1911A1s to work and left in their vehicles. I never did that or felt the need. We also agreed in the case of another Colombine as long as we could reasonably ascertain that the threat was kids on a rampage, we'd meet up at a predetermined rally point, form up and do a movement to contact in order to neutralize the threat. Then we did a careful walk thru of the entire school, identifying blind corners, choke points and areas not well lit. We cooked up a couple of contingency plans and went back to work. I venture to say THAT job site was one of the safest I've ever worked because of those individuals. But the sheep were totally useless, including the entire staff of administrators and also the schoolboard cop on duty. She was more like the stereotypical security guard then a real cop.
I can only speak for my area of the country but overall, school teachers and guns don't mix. Unfortunately, the bleating liberal sheep is pretty much the rampant species in classrooms all over the country, even in Texas or Idaho or Pennsylvania. The old sheep recruit even more "progressive" sheep to take their place in the classrooms. The cycle of helplessness and the promotion of the nanny state continues resolutely. Here endeth the lesson.
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