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Man recounts killing teenage burglary suspect in east Oak Cliff
dallasnews.com ^ | 22 January, 2009 | Staff

Posted on 01/22/2009 6:50:20 PM PST by marktwain

An Oak Cliff man is thankful he is alive after a teenage burglary suspect tried to shoot him. The man, who lives in the 300 block of Hobson Street with his mother, came home Wednesday morning to drop off a newspaper when he found the front door kicked in, Dallas police said. Seventeen-year-old Gabriel Flores, who was inside the home, pulled out a handgun and fired at him. The son, who has a concealed handgun license, fired back and struck Flores, who later died at a local hospital. “He shot at me four or five times and thank god he missed,” Charles Bircher told KTVT-TV on Wednesday. “It was a matter of life and death.” Bircher's 79-year-old mother, Ivy Willis, told KTVT-TV she supported her son's actions. “I would've done the same thing,” she said. Burglars “just want to break in and take what everyone else got,” she said. Officials said the case will probably be referred to a grand jury.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: banglist; homedefense; shooting; texas; txarmedcitizen
Glad to see the good guy was a better shot.
1 posted on 01/22/2009 6:50:23 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain
Oak Cliff is a huge area of Dallas and I live in Oak Cliff and when you tell someone where you live you always get the Oak Cliff Ohhhhhhh quickly followed by the commenting on the beautiful trees......

I live in the nice part of Oak Cliff and I cannot imagine living anywhere else....great neighbors and a great neighborhood feeling...

It is good to see that the good guy won. Last weekend hubby and I took our CHL class and the instructor said shootings always go to trial. He said get yourself a good lawyer and when their attorney asks “Did you mean to kill or injure my client ? “ we should answer I only wanted to stop him.....

2 posted on 01/22/2009 7:03:58 PM PST by Kimmers (Working hard so Obamas friends don't have to)
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To: marktwain

A grand jury? Certainly with forensics they can determine how many shots were fired by the perp and where they landed, and they have the witness testimony. I would think that would be enough to decide.


3 posted on 01/22/2009 7:06:50 PM PST by machogirl (not one of Rush's top-ten gal names)
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To: Kimmers

Don’t forget to say “I feared for my life” every other sentence.


4 posted on 01/22/2009 7:08:59 PM PST by packrat35 (To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women...)
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To: machogirl

hope it works out for him. in 3 out of the 4 different “personnel defense” courses I have completed, discussions of costs defending yourself in a what eventually turns out to be a correct use of deadly force scenario was shown as just hard to believe.


5 posted on 01/22/2009 7:52:22 PM PST by bobby.223
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just from the facts as presented, i can’t see how they can recommend that it even go to the grand jury.


6 posted on 01/22/2009 8:13:54 PM PST by machogirl (not one of Rush's top-ten gal names)
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To: machogirl

agreed.


7 posted on 01/22/2009 8:37:21 PM PST by bobby.223
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Pin a medal on him for being a great shot!


8 posted on 01/22/2009 8:55:34 PM PST by Senormechanico
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To: marktwain
and thank god he missed,
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It is typical for the Dallasnews.com to use a lower case “g” when referring to God?

9 posted on 01/22/2009 9:58:23 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: machogirl; DaveLoneRanger

I think that’s meant for the jury to “no-bill” him, which would strengthen his case should the perp’s family try to sue in civil court.

Kid was “just turning his life around” and all that, I’m sure. [rolling eyes]

Still, the homeowner shouldn’t have to worry about it at all. In defending himself from the “justice system,” he’ll spend more than the rotten little turd could have carried off in one afternoon.


10 posted on 01/23/2009 5:29:48 AM PST by Titan Magroyne ("Drill now drill hard drill often and give old Gaia a cigarette afterwards she deserves it." HerrBlu)
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To: marktwain

Another child in America killed needlessly by gun violence

/Sarah Brady talking point


11 posted on 01/23/2009 6:39:03 AM PST by burnitup
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To: Kimmers

“Last weekend hubby and I took our CHL class and the instructor said shootings always go to trial.”


I think your instructor is being overly pessimistic. Shootings often go to trial, but especially in Texas I see a great many of them being “no billed” by the grand jury.


12 posted on 01/23/2009 7:32:06 AM PST by marktwain
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You are right, he did say most of them are “no billed” by the grand jury.

I apologize because I did not give an accurate account and I appreciate your correction ....it is good to know that TX is supportive of the right to defend ourselves...

13 posted on 01/23/2009 7:45:23 AM PST by Kimmers (Working hard so Obamas friends don't have to)
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You are right, he did say most of them are “no billed” by the grand jury.

I apologize because I did not give an accurate account and I appreciate your correction ....it is good to know that TX is supportive of the right to defend ourselves...

14 posted on 01/23/2009 7:45:33 AM PST by Kimmers (Working hard so Obamas friends don't have to)
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To: Titan Magroyne

I hope that you are right. I’m sure that you are.

The kid was probably turning his life around, after that burglary.


15 posted on 01/23/2009 8:01:08 AM PST by machogirl (not one of Rush's top-ten gal names)
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