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Judges Back a One-Third Reduction in State Prison Population (CA)
Los Angeles Times ^ | February 10, 2009 | Michael Rothfeld

Posted on 02/10/2009 5:22:37 AM PST by kellynla

Reporting from Sacramento — A panel of three federal judges, saying overcrowding in state prisons has deprived inmates of their right to adequate healthcare, tentatively ruled Monday that the state must reduce the population in those lockups by as many as 57,000 people.

The judges issued the decisionafter a trial in two long-running cases brought by inmates to protest the state of medical and mental healthcare in the prisons.

Although their order is not final, U.S. District Court Judges Thelton Henderson and Lawrence Karlton and 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals Judge Stephen Reinhardt effectively told the state that it had lost the trial and would have to make dramatic changes in its prisons unless it could reach a settlement with inmates' lawyers.

State officials immediately said they would appeal.

If the state is ordered to reduce the prison population, it would likely be able to do so over two or three years, so it would not have to release large numbers of inmates at once. Some methods of cutting the population include limiting new admissions, changing policies so parole violators return to prison less frequently, and giving prisoners more time off of their sentences for good behavior and rehabilitation efforts.

The judges said these types of measures could save the state more than $900 million a year in prison costs, money that could be used by cities and counties to put those who otherwise would have gone to prison into local jails or treatment programs.

The state's 33 prisons were designed for 84,000 inmates, and they now hold 158,000, nearly double their designed capacity. The rest of the 170,000 in the correctional system are in out-of-state prisons and other facilities.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: foreigners; illegals; incarcerated; judges; prisons
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Solution: Deport the incarcerated illegal aliens.

It ain't rocket science! shezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...

1 posted on 02/10/2009 5:22:37 AM PST by kellynla
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To: calcowgirl; Ernest_at_the_Beach; NormsRevenge

ping


2 posted on 02/10/2009 5:23:55 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

Wow that’s a great solution to the fiscal crisis ... Let out all of the prisoners.

Remind me to stay out of CA.


3 posted on 02/10/2009 5:27:55 AM PST by jtal
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To: kellynla

What will that help more - crime rate or unemployment?


4 posted on 02/10/2009 5:28:54 AM PST by jimfree (Freep and ye shall find!)
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To: kellynla

Deport the aliens and end the “war on drugs”....


5 posted on 02/10/2009 5:31:21 AM PST by wendy1946
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To: kellynla

Exactly... and not only them. That would cut more costs in healthcare, housing, crime, welfare/food stamps/medicaid/WIC, schools, law enforcement and Immigration can finally look for illegal jihadists that cover this country. Oh, and that would create many jobs (and don’t think all of them are ag or service either).


6 posted on 02/10/2009 5:32:15 AM PST by AliVeritas (They serve Moloch/Ba'al. Prepare for punishment. Gird your loins, pray, pray, pray.)
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To: kellynla

Thanks to Ahnuld, Ca is going to look like the future in Terminator.


7 posted on 02/10/2009 5:36:01 AM PST by y6162
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To: kellynla

8 posted on 02/10/2009 5:36:09 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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I “think” the Bureau of Prisons reported some time ago that there were about 100K foreigners incarcerated in America.

No reason why American taxpayers should have to pay to incarcerate other countries’ criminals. At a conservative cost of 25K a year per prisoner, I "think" that's about $2.5 Trillion a year!(my calculator doesn't compute that high so I might be wrong.LOL)

9 posted on 02/10/2009 5:38:49 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

Can the judges just order people not to be criminals?


10 posted on 02/10/2009 5:39:28 AM PST by edcoil (Hey, I found my round-tuit, guess I'll go to work now.)
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To: kellynla
The sickest will be transferred to county/state hospitals. Being just out of jail and indigent they will be still be taken care of by tax dollars. Those not that sick will still be indigent, unlikely to find a job much less housing and probably wind up on the Streets of San Francisco subsisting on panhandling and city services. Deporting illegals only makes a minor dent in the overall problem as a majority will be back soon. With no job skills, a shrinking job market, a bankrupt state government unable to fund services, and a declining church collection plate and attendance to provide charitable services, some of these people will be wishing they were back in with a roof over their head and 3 squares. Sad but true.
11 posted on 02/10/2009 5:43:28 AM PST by dblshot
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“That would cut more costs in healthcare, housing, crime, welfare/food stamps/medicaid/WIC, schools, law enforcement and Immigration can finally look for illegal jihadists that cover this country. Oh, and that would create many jobs (and don’t think all of them are ag or service either).”

Exactly! (If there were only someone in the WH as smart as you!)

12 posted on 02/10/2009 5:44:26 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

Get into an argument with a lefty over the current scale of compulsory collectivism. Without fail, you are immediately charged with wanting to cut out core services - police, fire, roads, water/wastewater mains etc.

Cutting core services is what our spiteful leaders do when tax money is tight. They NEVER cut the crap. They always cut police, fire, defense, prisons - among the only things the government SHOULD be doing. All other cuts are described as “draconian”.

I don’t think truly essential services are cut solely because the cuts will prop up support for tax increases; these things are cut also because “everyone will suffer equally”. The other services are things for which the government does not (yet) have a crippling monopoly, meaning that the “rich” can largely escape any direct pain.

That is the mentality we are working with here folks.


13 posted on 02/10/2009 5:46:12 AM PST by M203M4 (Bill Kristol: Piltdown conservative)
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To: kellynla

Execute the murderers. That should do it.


14 posted on 02/10/2009 5:50:04 AM PST by nina0113 (Hugh Akston is my hero.)
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To: kellynla

If they gotta get rid of prisoners then euthanize them.


15 posted on 02/10/2009 5:53:26 AM PST by BuffaloJack
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Deport the incarcerated illegal aliens

A flight home is cheaper than three hots and a cot. Ship 'em back and drop 'em off.

16 posted on 02/10/2009 5:53:38 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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They don't have to release them. What are rogue federal judges going to do? Hold the state in contempt? That'll work alright!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

17 posted on 02/10/2009 6:03:34 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: kellynla

Is there any provision in President Hussein’s stimulus package for building prisons in California?


18 posted on 02/10/2009 6:03:46 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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Solution: Deport the incarcerated illegal aliens.

Not only illegal aliens, but legal resident aliens who commit felonies are subject to deportation.

But if Bush didn't have the cajones to deport illegal alien criminals, do you think Hussein will?

19 posted on 02/10/2009 6:06:43 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: BuffaloJack

This is Obama’s plan to balance the budget: Perform more abortions; kill the elderly (65 and over) by restricting their health care; reduce the military 25%; eliminate the war on drugs; eliminate NASA; reduce prison populations; legalize controlled substances.


20 posted on 02/10/2009 6:07:33 AM PST by DownInFlames (C)
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