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GOP, Dems agree on dislike of open primary
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 2/20/9 | Carla Marinucci, Chronicle Political Writer

Posted on 02/20/2009 8:01:43 AM PST by SmithL

SAN FRANCISCO -- California Republican and Democratic Party leaders, always at war, finally agree on a common enemy: the open primary.

A proposed constitutional amendment would go before voters in June 2010 instituting a "top-two" primary system, which would effectively eliminate party primary ballots, erase candidate party labels in primary elections and allow voters to choose the two candidates - of whatever party - who would compete in the general election.

An open primary would dissolve the current political primary system, and has the potential to seriously erode party power and change the entire landscape of state politics.

The measure was the work of Republican state Sen. Abel Maldonado of Santa Maria (Santa Barbara County), the swing vote Democrats needed to push through state budget legislation Thursday morning. That vote earned him the wrath of his party.

Maldonado heralded the passage of his SA4 - one of three constitutional amendments the moderate GOP legislator traded for his critically needed vote - as an important piece of legislation "that will allow us to come together and work more closely."

"It becomes part of what the governor calls the fourth leg of his stool - which is systemic reform" in a state where gerrymandering has produced safe legislative districts with virtually no political turnover, noted Barbara O'Connor, professor of political communication at Cal State Sacramento. "The theory is that it will produce more moderate candidates. ... People generally like it. And the parties hate it."

Approval may be difficult

But it might not be easy to get a simple majority of the voters needed to put the amendment into the state Constitution. In 1998, California voters approved a "blanket" primary measure allowing them to vote in either primary; it was ruled unconstitutional...

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: aholemaldonado; calbudget; calinitiatives; goldenstate; maldonado; newmajority; openprimaries; openprimary; prop62
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1 posted on 02/20/2009 8:01:43 AM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Absolute insanity. This is how the GOP ended up with a Presidential nominee that received a paltry 37% of Republican votes.


2 posted on 02/20/2009 8:03:20 AM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: SmithL

bump for later


3 posted on 02/20/2009 8:05:51 AM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: SmithL
Can I get a “Oh, hell no!”, brothers and sisters?
4 posted on 02/20/2009 8:05:57 AM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: SmithL

By the time it got to New Mexico, our only remaining choices were Paul and McCain. I was kinda hoping to be able to cast a vote for Hunter or Thompson.


5 posted on 02/20/2009 8:07:06 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Obama - what you get when you mix Affirmative Action with the Peter Principle.)
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To: RichInOC

Hell yeah, you can get an “Oh hell no!”


6 posted on 02/20/2009 8:08:06 AM PST by SmithL (The Golden State demands all of your gold)
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To: SmithL

With no opposition for the Bamster in 2010, all his supporters will be crossing over to vote for the weakest Pubbie.........


7 posted on 02/20/2009 8:08:09 AM PST by Sybeck1 (WHITE AND EMBRACING WHAT IS RIGHT!!!!!!)
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To: SmithL

Closed primaries should be the rule, but then, so should literacy tests for voters.
I’d also like to see voting privileges forfeited by people who stay indefinitely on welfare; there should be some point at which they are formally classified with idiots and children.
Won’t happen, I know.


8 posted on 02/20/2009 8:09:28 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (American Revolution II -- overdue.)
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To: Badeye
Actually, for the People's Republic of California, where no Republican can win statewide office now, I see this as a good thing. If there is enough infighting by the Royal Wannabes, it is remotely possible that the second place finisher just might go on to win the general election based on merit.

With "whitey" already relegated to minority status, the race-based jockeying for control of the Democrat Party machinery is going to get ugly.

9 posted on 02/20/2009 8:12:30 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: IYAS9YAS

I think if you could do a “do over” next time it would be Paul, not McCain!


10 posted on 02/20/2009 8:25:23 AM PST by JSDude1 (R(epublicans) In Name Only SUCK; D(emocrats) In Name Only are worth their weight..)
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To: SmithL

So California wants to become Louisiana, eh? Luck to them.

I, personally, would be fine with closed primaries, where only the members of each party can cast a vote in its primary. This would help prevent shenanigans such as Dems and Independents crossing over to help stick us with somebody like McKook.


11 posted on 02/20/2009 8:27:23 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Barack Obama: in your guts, you know he's nuts!)
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To: SmithL
a "top-two" primary system, which would effectively eliminate party primary ballots, erase candidate party labels in primary elections and allow voters to choose the two candidates - of whatever party - who would compete in the general election.

They could then skip the primary part and vote the President directly from an open list.

What a BS idea.

Close Party primaries and be done with it.

12 posted on 02/20/2009 8:27:49 AM PST by SolidWood (Palin: "In Alaska we eat therefore we hunt.")
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To: SmithL

Primaries absolutely must be closed for 2012.
The Messiah will have no DNC opposition freeing them to vote for another IDIOT like McCain.


13 posted on 02/20/2009 8:29:06 AM PST by arealconservativeforachange (Tell JD Hayworth to run for McCain's seat! http://www.jdhayworth.com/contact.php)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

and to avoid cross over voters, when a person changes politically parties, they can only vote in that parties primary in the following election, not the current one. Sort of a cooling off period :-)


14 posted on 02/20/2009 8:37:57 AM PST by rigelkentaurus
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To: Vigilanteman

Good point, but the implications related to a national race, primary in particular, hurts the GOP.


15 posted on 02/20/2009 8:38:50 AM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: JSDude1
I think if you could do a “do over” next time it would be Paul, not McCain!

I voted for Paul in the primaries. Not because I wanted him as a first choice, but because I wanted McCain even less. Paul has a lot of work to do regarding foreign policy. Domestically, I like him.

16 posted on 02/20/2009 8:46:13 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Obama - what you get when you mix Affirmative Action with the Peter Principle.)
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To: SmithL

If it’s endorsed by California Democrats and the SF Chronicle, you can bet it’s bad. California Republicans provide cover on cue.


17 posted on 02/20/2009 8:47:58 AM PST by Luke21
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To: IYAS9YAS
I was kinda hoping to be able to cast a vote for Hunter or Thompson.

When I first read that, I read Hunter S. Thompson.

18 posted on 02/20/2009 8:48:25 AM PST by Pilsner
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To: SmithL

I believe it has been established that John McCain’s primary victory was the result of crossover independent and Democrat voters.

Republicans did not get their choice.

This needs to change


19 posted on 02/20/2009 8:50:24 AM PST by elpadre (nation)
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To: elpadre

Personally, I think that the Republicans should have closed primaries with the states with the smallest number of electoral votes holding elections in the first two (or three)weeks, then the states with the middle number of electoral votes in the next two or three weeks and lastly, the states with the most E.V.’s in the final two weeks.


20 posted on 02/20/2009 9:00:35 AM PST by IM2MAD
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