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Here it comes people. The gubamint is going to be pulling the plug on ya'.

Sorry, but ObamaCare says you have to die.

1 posted on 03/07/2009 5:54:41 AM PST by csvset
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To: csvset

Translation.

When we take over the health care industry we want to be able to kill those pesky old people or anyone else for that matter who will threaten to bust the budget.

First kill all the unwanted babies and when that is accomplished kill all those nasty old folks.

Change! Ain’t it grand!


2 posted on 03/07/2009 6:00:19 AM PST by mort56 (He who would sacrifice freedom for security deserves neither. - Ben Franklin)
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Warner will be sending folks to the ovens or the "showers". Change. Be very afraid.

3 posted on 03/07/2009 6:05:58 AM PST by csvset
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4 posted on 03/07/2009 6:10:12 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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At the risk of being unfeeling.. shouldn’t Teddy Kennedy be at the front of the line volunteering. It would set such a good example.


5 posted on 03/07/2009 6:12:11 AM PST by pnut22
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Do I get the feeling Mark “Horseface” Warner is tired of paying for Momma’s care, and would love to have some way of helping her shuffle off the mortal coil?

What a despicable POS.


6 posted on 03/07/2009 6:17:42 AM PST by Darnright (There can never be a complete confidence in a power which is excessive. - Tacitus)
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To: theKid51; ourusa; Apple Blossom

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8 posted on 03/07/2009 6:19:05 AM PST by bmwcyle (Obama voters, your 401 K's are dead. Now what?)
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Translation:

If enough of you choose to die without aggressive care it will leave enough healthcare dollars for those of us who want aggressive care.

If enough of you do not choose to die, we will just have to only provide agressive care to those deemed ‘worthy’ by a special panel consisting of former politicians.


9 posted on 03/07/2009 6:26:13 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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“Such measures account for more than one-fourth of Medicare payments and 10 to 12 percent of all health...”

Yeah, it’s not about compassion or caring for loved ones in their final hours, it’s about Government money. There is absolutely no doubt that when socialized medicine is foisted on us a doctor will come in to a dying person’s hospital room and tell the family, “well, you’ve used up more than your share, time to pull the plug.”


10 posted on 03/07/2009 6:27:32 AM PST by yazoo
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For the moment, let’s pretend this is valid: that we need to be more accepting of the changes that age brings to us rather than treating them all. I say, let’s start by eliminating Viagra and Cialis. That’s just treating one of the things that can happen as we age. AND we could avoid those awful commercials on tv. I’m sure no one in Congress would oppose that, now, would they?

(no sound but crickets.....)


11 posted on 03/07/2009 6:48:47 AM PST by trimom
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Why do waste any more money on the Swimmer ?

Or are there rules for the overlords
and other rules for the peasants ?

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai

14 posted on 03/07/2009 6:54:41 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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This is what we are paying for? Steal the money from our checks and then don’t pay it back. That kind of action would get your legs broken in South Philly. And yet we put up with it? How insane is this?

No more, I REFUSE! I am not going to continue this insane charade. I will resist with every fiber of my being.


17 posted on 03/07/2009 7:03:37 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners.)
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Ok - lets give 500 million dollars to study the affects of this. Now we need some volunteers to do this.
I propose let’s start with the Congress and the Senate. Kennedy comes to mind, Mr. Warner has outlived his usefulness if he ever was useful.
I propose the Congress should have to try out every law they force down our throats. Lets start putting them into the unemployment line. See how they like standing in line instead of working.


18 posted on 03/07/2009 7:16:55 AM PST by ODDITHER
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All of us who are retired, or who are about to retire, have lost huge amounts of our money in the stock market and now our 401K retirement accounts. Many of us saved money for our retirement, paid off our mortgages a long time ago, and we worked hard for 30 plus years. We were charitable and we paid more than our fair share of taxes into the system. We are a large demographic in America and our healthcare is not inexepensive. Don’t think for a minute that the long range plan is to deny more and more healthcare to the elderly, even before they are near death. Look at the cost of our healthcare as compared to that of any other demographic group. Obama’s long range plan is nothing short of GERIATRIC GENOCIDE, period.


20 posted on 03/07/2009 8:13:38 AM PST by Pride in the USA
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Steffie Woolhandler, a Harvard Medical School professor and co-founder of Physicians for a National Health Program, argued that there’s no evidence the end-of-life planning Warner advocated would reduce health-care costs.

Everyone should plan for end-of-life care, she said, but the key to reducing costs is replacing the private insurance plans that pay for most U.S. health care with a government-run “single-payer” health system.

“There’s a tremendous amount of waste” associated with private insurance, Woolhandler said, with companies overcharging by about 13 percent nationally.


Proof positive that liberals, even, (or perhaps particularly), Harvard educated ones, do not have control of their faculties.

As a hospice nurse for going on 2 decades and a nurse for 25 years total and an Air Force medic prior to that, it doesn’t take a rocket surgeon to understand the most wasteful entity of all IS the government!

Medicare fraud alone in this country costs us about $33 billion a year!

And for the most part, the elderly already are covered by the gov. via medicare, and it’s the 80-90 year olds that comprise the bulk of our patient loads.

But if families were educated and proper end of life issues WERE addressed, they’d not be placed on feeding tubes, undergo needless surgery, and be kept alive for the sake of the physician or the family, prolonging their suffering against their will; and the time to accomplish this is not when they’re actively dying and they and their families are under duress, but before-hand.

And of course, we ALL benefit as a society, financially and otherwise!

Liberalism is the disease killing this country.


24 posted on 03/07/2009 9:27:48 AM PST by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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25 posted on 03/07/2009 6:19:24 PM PST by Corin Stormhands ("Failed Obama Administration" (TM))
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26 posted on 03/08/2009 12:00:11 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Hey Warner! You go first! Try out the policy, and get back to us on how it goes!


27 posted on 03/08/2009 12:13:44 PM PDT by GWMcClintock ("When the foundations are being destroyed, what can the righteous do?" Ps. 11:3)
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28 posted on 03/08/2009 3:56:39 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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