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Minister won't confirm belief in evolution
Globe and Mail ^ | March 17, 2009 | ANNE MCILROY

Posted on 03/18/2009 7:31:56 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode

Canada's science minister, the man at the centre of the controversy over federal funding cuts to researchers, won't say if he believes in evolution.

“I'm not going to answer that question. I am a Christian, and I don't think anybody asking a question about my religion is appropriate,” Gary Goodyear, the federal Minister of State for Science and Technology, said in an interview with The Globe and Mail.

A funding crunch, exacerbated by cuts in the January budget, has left many senior researchers across the county scrambling to find the money to continue their experiments.

Some have expressed concern that Mr. Goodyear, a chiropractor from Cambridge, Ont., is suspicious of science, perhaps because he is a creationist.

When asked about those rumours, Mr. Goodyear said such conversations are not worth having.

Brian Alters, founder and director of the Evolution Education Research Centre at McGill University in Montreal, was shocked by the minister's comments

“It is the same as asking the gentleman, ‘Do you believe the world is flat?' and he doesn't answer on religious grounds,” said Dr. Alters. “Or gravity, or plate tectonics, or that the Earth goes around the sun.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: darwin; evasion; evolution
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Sensible fellow. I can understand his reluctance to cast his lot in with the Darwinian loons: Darwinism-Eugenics.
1 posted on 03/18/2009 7:31:56 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode
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To: GodGunsGuts; metmom; Fichori; tpanther

peeeng!


2 posted on 03/18/2009 7:32:27 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Darwinism!)
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By the way everyone, the reporter McIlroy writes this...
Some have expressed concern that Mr. Goodyear, a chiropractor from Cambridge, Ont., is suspicious of science, perhaps because he is a creationist.
In this sentence she is using a tactic I call subrhetoric. It's extremely common.
4 posted on 03/18/2009 7:39:40 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Darwinism!)
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“It is the same as asking the gentleman, ‘Do you believe the world is flat?' and he doesn't answer on religious grounds,” said Dr. Alters. “Or gravity, or plate tectonics, or that the Earth goes around the sun.”

Exactly. Said Minister should lose his job.

5 posted on 03/18/2009 7:45:33 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
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” I am a Christian, and I don’t think anybody asking a question about my religion is appropriate,””

Funny. Saul of Tarsus didn’t mind explaining his beliefs to anybody who would listen.


6 posted on 03/18/2009 7:54:04 AM PDT by RoadTest (The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? - Jer.17:9)
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What’s ironic is that “evolution” is of such little importance to actual science. “Science” would proceed entirely apace, even were evolution to disappear as a philosophical concept completely.


7 posted on 03/18/2009 8:06:48 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (True nobility is exempt from fear - Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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The religious nuts (i.e., evolutionists) are running scared again.

This propaganda about "being opposed to science" is getting so old. Day after day there are threads right here on FR showing how science demonstrates evolutionary mechanisms are inadequate to explain most features of life. Yesterday's thread on folding of soft strata was a good case in point, as Darwinist after Darwinist avoided even attempting to refute this evidence for a young earth.

8 posted on 03/18/2009 8:07:12 AM PDT by Liberty1970 (Democrats are not in control. God is. And Thank God for that!)
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Exactly. Said Minister should lose his job.

Sorry, but no. Goodyear should be graded on the merit of his actual job performance.

9 posted on 03/18/2009 8:07:48 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (True nobility is exempt from fear - Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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“The religious nuts...”

Oh, you must mean the young Earthers.


10 posted on 03/18/2009 8:10:08 AM PDT by gracesdad
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To: Liberty1970
This propaganda about "being opposed to science" is getting so old.

Yes. I call this way of talking subrhetoric. It is the daily bread of atheists and Darwinians.

11 posted on 03/18/2009 8:10:29 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Darwinism!)
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“The religious nuts...”

Oh, you must mean the young Earthers

I became a Christian because I became convinced of a young earth. I became convinced of a young earth because of the scientific evidence and the fact that the creation model explained it far better than old-earth models. Cf. the book Pursuaded by the Evidence, ed. by Doug Sharp and Dr. Jerry Bergman.

Instead of attempting science apologetics, Darwinists today rely almost exclusively on government, media and academic control and philosophical/religious arguments. Just keep your eyes open and you will see it all around you. They've lost their case and it is apparent to all but themselves.

12 posted on 03/18/2009 8:20:23 AM PDT by Liberty1970 (Democrats are not in control. God is. And Thank God for that!)
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Goodyear should be graded on the merit of his actual job performance.

Evasion of a basic cornerstone of science = "F"

13 posted on 03/18/2009 8:21:13 AM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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Thanks to ECO for finding this one!


14 posted on 03/18/2009 8:23:34 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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Laugh of the day:

“basic cornerstone of science”


15 posted on 03/18/2009 8:24:47 AM PDT by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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Exactly. Said Minister should lose his job.

Sorry, but no. Goodyear should be graded on the merit of his actual job performance.

If the fundamental principle of modern biology is off limits for discussion by the Minister of Science how can he do his job? How about discussions of the expansion of the Universe (astronomy), the age of the earth (geology), the germ theory of disease (medicine) and other scientific matters? These are all religiously controversial as well. What isn't off limits?

16 posted on 03/18/2009 8:26:40 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
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Laugh of the day: “basic cornerstone of science”

True, it's only the basic cornerstone of biology. Doesn't have much to do with astronomy, I guess.

17 posted on 03/18/2009 8:29:24 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
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Looks like another example proving Ben Stein’s case. The “tolerant” totalitarians are at it again! Bob


18 posted on 03/18/2009 8:33:38 AM PDT by alstewartfan
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Yep, no biological discoveries, no advances in biology, and no study of living organisms could ever occur without the “basic cornerstone” of assuming that man evolved from primordial goo.


19 posted on 03/18/2009 8:36:09 AM PDT by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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I have a better question - Can you demonstrate any actual incompetence in the performance of his functions as “science minister”?


20 posted on 03/18/2009 8:38:04 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (True nobility is exempt from fear - Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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