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It's “bizarre,” because the IPCC'S 2007 summary report was never a serious scientific endeavor. It was just the politics of fear from those who want control.

A version of this article appeared in print on April 16, 2009, on page A1 of the New York edition. That's the frontpage.

1 posted on 04/16/2009 3:00:48 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

They try to crack down on non-PC third-worlders, they’re gonna get a riot.


2 posted on 04/16/2009 3:03:11 PM PDT by coydog (Proud to have slept through the Obama coronation!)
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To: neverdem

poverty is bad for the environment.... who knew? (everyone with common sense)


3 posted on 04/16/2009 3:03:41 PM PDT by GeronL (TYRANNY SENTINEL. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: neverdem

Cooking with dung - if we don’t stop the leftists, that’s what we’ll be doing.


4 posted on 04/16/2009 3:10:16 PM PDT by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar
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To: neverdem

And what, exactly, are they going to replace it with? Or are they just going to let them starve?

I read recently that a third world country, I can’t remember which, suddenly forbade using peat for fires, which made it impossible for people to cook because that’s all they had.


5 posted on 04/16/2009 3:12:40 PM PDT by Nipfan (The desire to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it - H L Mencken)
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To: neverdem

Haven’t India and China been expecting big exemptions from the global “climate change” laws because they’re just “catching up” with the big polluter nations (aka “white male colonialists and imperialists”) and, gee gosh, isn’t the 21st Century *their* time to pollute the atmosphere and to take full economic advantage of the newly self-hamstrung Western idiot nations?

Which Q.E.D. clearly demonstrates that “climate change” has everything to do with political science and very little to do with actual science.


7 posted on 04/16/2009 3:18:15 PM PDT by angkor
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To: neverdem

This is a perfect example of liberalism run amuck. Thousands of african die every year from lung disease, because they cook on indoor fires. Obviously, cooking on indoor fires creates alot of air pollution.

Why don’t we use cooking fires in this country? Oh yeah, we are evil and use electric ranges, fed by evil coal burning power plants.

Can Africa have power plants? Hell no - solar for them.

Can Africa damn rivers? Hell no - hurts the environment.

Can africa use DDT and other chemicals? Nope, environment again.

One of the biggest crimes of the last 50 years has been the western world’s refusal to allow Africa to develop itself, using environmentalism as an excuse. Its racist and deadly...

And now, all of the sudden, these idiots figure out that burning dung causes pollution? Whatever.


9 posted on 04/16/2009 3:24:15 PM PDT by lacrew (Obama and cabinet: Fool and the Gang)
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To: neverdem
a rough guess on my part is there around 1billion westerners vs the rest of the 6,790,062,216 world population(CIA Factbook estimation for july 2009)... now tell me who makes more pollution.

but it's destroy the west with their AGW scam at all costs.

12 posted on 04/16/2009 3:49:02 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - Obama is basically Jim Jones with a teleprompter)
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To: neverdem

Can you imagine some prissy libtard running around these villages, with people just surviving, and going off on them with the whole global warming shtick.


13 posted on 04/16/2009 3:49:10 PM PDT by kenth (Obama - One Big Ass Mistake, America)
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To: neverdem
Amazing, I thought the poor turd-worlders were innocent in every circustance.

This story deviates from the teplate by God!

15 posted on 04/16/2009 4:25:33 PM PDT by turducken
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To: neverdem

I long for the day when one of these liberal idiot enviros are treated to a mallet to the temple when they start spouting this idiocy in the future.


16 posted on 04/16/2009 4:33:04 PM PDT by headstamp 2 ("Government is a disease masquerading as it's own cure")
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To: neverdem

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..............

Lentils simmered over animal dung....I suppose sheep dung makes lentils taste differently than those cooked over goat, or cow dung..?? Imagine the aroma...

Of course if you choose the right cow, you’re potentially cooking with your grandma’s crap, and I suppose these heathens find some nutritional (or cultural) value in that as well...

One can only imagine what other unsavory habits these people indulge in, but we expect them to grasp the fundamentals of Global Warming/Climate Change??


17 posted on 04/16/2009 4:35:41 PM PDT by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts.....)
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To: neverdem

Sounds like the so called scientists just want these poor people to starve to death so we can save the world.


18 posted on 04/16/2009 4:40:22 PM PDT by kamikaze2000
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Beam me to Planet Gore !

19 posted on 04/16/2009 4:44:15 PM PDT by steelyourfaith ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money" - Lady Thatcher)
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To: neverdem

But, but, I thought dumbO’s big plan was to shoot soot in the sky to reduce GW.


20 posted on 04/16/2009 4:48:18 PM PDT by razorback-bert (We used to call them astronomical numbers. Now we should call them economical numbers.)
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To: neverdem

‘It’s hard to believe that this is what’s melting the glaciers,” said Dr. Veerabhadran Ramanathan, one of the world’s leading climate scientists, as he weaved through a warren of mud brick huts, each containing a mud cookstove pouring soot into the atmosphere.’

It’s hard to believe because it’s not true.


21 posted on 04/16/2009 4:48:51 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: neverdem
Veerabhadran Ramanathan...as far as anyone needs to read. Professor Veerabhadran Ramanathan, head of the UNEP panel, is even more radical in some respects than Hansen.

Concerning air pollution & the Beijing Olympics:

It's also unclear how closely smog and lower temperatures are linked. "We know that air pollution masks the effects of global warming. But to what percentage, we are still not certain," says Ramanathan. "If it's 80 percent, that would be bad news."

Or on 'Global Dimming/Brown Clouds'

These “atmospheric brown clouds” result mostly from the burning of fossil fuels and biomass, and they naturally worsen the impact of climate change caused by the emission of greenhouse gas emissions...

... India as a whole had become darker by about two percent per decade between 1960 and 2000, while China had lost its natural light by about three percent to four percent per decade from the 1950s to the 1990s. Poor air quality, less productive agriculture affecting food production and heightening the impact of climate change are the immediate portends.

According to lead scientist Veerabhadran Ramanathan of the US-based Scripps Institution of Oceanography, “One of the most serious problems highlighted in the report is the documented retreat of the Hind Kush-Himalayan-Tibetan glaciers, which provide the head-waters for most Asian rivers, and thus have serious implications for the water and food security of Asia,”

His solution? Solar cookers for the Asian & African poor-folk. When the sun don't shine, they can starve.

22 posted on 04/16/2009 5:02:18 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The mob got President Barabbas; America got shafted)
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To: neverdem

Obama can gather all the soot and shoot it higher up into the atmosphere and to cool things down, right?


26 posted on 04/16/2009 6:44:46 PM PDT by huldah1776 ( Worthy is the Lamb)
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27 posted on 04/16/2009 7:11:00 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Barack Obama: in your guts, you know he's nuts!)
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“It’s hard to believe that this is what’s melting the glaciers,” said Dr. Veerabhadran Ramanathan, one of the world’s leading climate scientists, as he weaved through a warren of mud brick huts,waved his hand.


30 posted on 04/17/2009 10:10:20 AM PDT by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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