32 Nuke Scientists from Former Soviet Union Had Resettled in N. Korea Since 1991

Chosun Ilbo ^ | 04/19/09

[TigerLikesRooster]

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32 Scientists from Former Soviet Union Had Resettled in N. Korea Since 1991

posted: 2009.04.19 20:22; updated : 2009.04.19 20:24

Park Kil-nam(age:68,) a former high-level operative from top intelligence outfit against S. Korea, called 'Office No. 35 under Central Committee of N. Korean Worker's Party,' who escaped to Japan in 1999 and obtained citizenship of S. Korea last year, finally opened his mouth. In his interview with Wolgan Chosun, carried in its May issue, he provided details on his activities in N. Korea.

According to him, Soviet scientists started to come to N. Korea since 1991. By 1993, total of 32 scientists resettled in N. Korea. Their family came along with them, and they were paid $3,000 a month. Their salary was less than $500 a month in (Former) Soviet Union, and they were brought in to develop nuclear weapons.

They lived together at upscale mansions behind Ryukyong Hotel in Pyongyang. Scientists from former Soviet Union, Pakistan, and Iran all lived together. Pakistanis provided nuclear technology, and Soviet scientists taught them how to make nuclear bombs.

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[TigerLikesRooster]

Ping!

[pnh102]

Pretty sad when moving from Russkieland to North Korea is a step up.

[SolidWood]

Scientists from former Soviet Union, Pakistan, and Iran all lived together. Pakistanis provided nuclear technology, and Soviet scientists taught them how to make nuclear bombs.

Must have been quite the party...

[alice_in_bubbaland]

This does not bode well for the rest of the world.

I wonder how many settled in Iran????

[Eric in the Ozarks]

And not a stick of deodorant within 100 miles.

[pepsionice]

The funny thing here...if you had offered these guys $4k a month to teach physics in the US...at some small podunk community college in Kentucky...they would have taken the deal. We should have recruited these days and kept them happy...it would have been alot cheaper than playing the current game we are engaged in currently.

[Ezekiel]

Scientists from former Soviet Union, Pakistan, and Iran walked into a bar...

[Condor51]

32 Scientists from Former Soviet Union Had Resettled in N. Korea Since 1991

Not to worry, nothing to see here, move along now.

They just relocated to N. Korea for the 'Stir Fried Dog'.

(couldn't get that in the USSR ya know.)

[alice_in_bubbaland]

Very true! Oh but wait! Clinton was too busy collecting ChiCom cash and stupping (sp?) Monica to give a darn.

[grey_whiskers]

Do we blame Bush '41, Clinton, Congress, or the State Department for this?

Pitchfork, tar and feather time.

(When the first Nork Nuke hits Japan or the US, we ought to round up the people in power back then and find out which ones allowed this, and whether it was by accident or design. Then roll up the whole network.) /sarc>

NO cheers, unfortunately.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

I understood the US paid big bucks for the dismantling of old Soviet missiles.

[A. Morgan]

32 nuclear scientist settling in North Korean and ZERo cancels the missile shield. What a GENIUS he is!

[ETL]

Clinton was too busy collecting ChiCom cash

Kim "So-Ill" and Madame "Not-So-Bright" (Klinton administration)

"'We like your president. We want to see him reelected', former Chinese intelligence chief General Ji Shengde told Chinagate bagman Johnny Chung. Indeed, Chinese intelligence organized a massive covert operation aimed at tilting the 1996 election Clinton’s way."

The Idiot's Guide to Chinagate
By Richard Poe
May 26, 2003

CHINA WILL LIKELY replace the USA as world leader, said Bill Clinton in a recent Washington Post interview. It is just a matter of time. Clinton should know. He has personally done more to build China’s military strength than any man on earth.

Most Americans have heard of the so-called "Chinagate " scandal. Few understand its deadly import, however. Web sites such as "Chinagate for Dummies" and its companion "More Chinagate for Dummies" offer some assistance. Unfortunately, with a combined total of nearly 8,000 words, these two sites – like so many others of the genre – offer more detail than most of us "dummies" can absorb.

For that reason, in the 600 words left in this column, I will try to craft my own "Idiot’s Guide to Chinagate," dedicated to all those busy folks like you and me whose attention span tends to peter out after about 750 words. Here goes.

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, China presented little threat to the United States. Chinese missiles "couldn’t hit the side of a barn," notes Timothy W. Maier of Insight magazine. Few could reach North America and those that made it would likely miss their targets.

Thanks to Bill Clinton, China can now hit any city in the USA, using state-of-the-art, solid-fueled missiles with dead-accurate, computerized guidance systems and multiple warheads.

China probably has suitcase nukes as well. These enable China to strike by proxy – equipping nuclear-armed terrorists to do their dirty work, while the Chinese play innocent. Some intelligence sources claim that China maintains secret stockpiles of chemical, biological and nuclear weapons on U.S. soil, for just such contingencies.

In 1997, Clinton allowed China to take over the Panama Canal. The Chinese company Hutchison Whampoa leased the ports of Cristobal and Balboa, on the east and west openings of the canal respectively, thus controlling access both ways. A public outcry stopped Clinton in 1998 from leasing California’s Long Beach Naval Yard to the Chinese firm COSCO. Even so, China can now strike U.S. targets easily from their bases in Panama, Vancouver and the Bahamas.

How did China catch up so fast? Easy. We sold them all the technology they needed – or handed it over for free. Neither neglect nor carelessness are to blame. Bill Clinton did it on purpose.

As a globalist, Clinton promotes "multipolarity" – the doctrine that no country (such as the USA) should be allowed to gain decisive advantage over others.

To this end, Clinton appointed anti-nuclear activist Hazel O’Leary to head the Department of Energy. O’Leary set to work "leveling the playing field," as she put it, by giving away our nuclear secrets. She declassified 11 million pages of data on U.S. nuclear weapons and loosened up security at weapons labs.

Federal investigators [Cox Report] later concluded that China made off with the "crown jewels" of our nuclear weapons research under Clinton’s open-door policy – probably including design specifications for suitcase nukes. Meanwhile, Clinton and his corporate cronies raked in millions.

In his book The China Threat, Washington Times correspondent Bill Gertz describes how the system worked. Defense contractors eager to sell technology to China poured millions of dollars into Clinton’s campaign. In return, Clinton called off the dogs.

Janet Reno and other counterintelligence officials stood down while Lockheed Martin, Hughes Electronics, Loral Space & Communications and other U.S. companies helped China modernize its nuclear strike force.

"We like your president. We want to see him reelected," former Chinese intelligence chief General Ji Shengde told Chinagate bagman Johnny Chung. Indeed, Chinese intelligence organized a massive covert operation aimed at tilting the 1996 election Clinton’s way.

Clinton’s top campaign contributors for 1992 were Chinese agents; his top donors in 1996 were U.S. defense contractors selling missile technology to China.

Clinton recieved funding directly from known or suspected Chinese intelligence agents, among them James and Mochtar Riady who own the Indonesian Lippo Group; John Huang; Charlie Trie; Ted Sioeng; Maria Hsia; Wang Jun and others.

Commerce Secretary Ron Brown served as Clinton’s front man in many Chinagate deals. When investigators began probing Brown’s Lippo Group and Chinagate connections, Brown died suddenly in a suspicious April 1996 plane crash.

Needless to say, China does not share Clinton’s enthusiasm for globalism or multipolarity. The Chinese look out for Number One.

"War [with the United States] is inevitable; we cannot avoid it," said Chinese Defense Minister General Chi Haotian in 2000. "The issue is that the Chinese armed forces must control the initiative in this war." Bill Clinton has given them a good start.

The Idiot's Guide to Chinagate:
http://www.richardpoe.com/column.cgi?story=125

or,
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/5/26/214938.shtml
(this version hasn't the necessary hyperlinks, but the above doesn't seem to be available any longer)
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Related Stories
Richard Poe, "Chinagate: The Third-Way Scandal" (June 3, 1999)
Christopher Ruddy, "Russia and China Prepare for War: Parts I - VIII," NewsMax.com (March 9 -18, 1999)
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From the Sino-Russian Joint Statement of April 23, 1997:
"The two sides [China and Russia] shall, in the spirit of partnership, strive to promote the multipolarization of the world and the establishment of a new international order."
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/HI29Ag01.html
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"As a globalist, [Bill] Clinton promotes "multipolarity" – the doctrine that no country (such as the USA) should be allowed to gain decisive advantage over others."

From a 2003 Washington Post article:

"...a statement [Bill] Clinton made in February 2002, in which he told an audience in Australia, 'This is a unique moment in U.S. history, a brief moment in history, when the U.S. has preeminent military, economic and political power. It won't last forever. This is just a period, a few decades this will last.'

Clinton continued...

'In all probability, we won't be the premier political and economic power we are now' in a few decades, he said, pointing to the growth of China's economy and the growing economic strength of the European Union.

Whether the United States maintains its military supremacy, he said, depends in part on how much those other entities invest in their militaries, and Clinton said working cooperatively is essential to U.S. interests.

But he said he did not want to be misunderstood. 'I never advocated that we not have the strongest military in the world...I don't think a single soul has thought I was advocating scaling back our military.'

Source: Washington Post article from May 2003:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A62253-2003Apr30&notFound=true

or find his remarks here (Talon News):
Clinton Predicts America's Decline:
http://mensnewsdaily.com/archive/newswire/nw03/talonnews/0503/newswire-tn-050503d.htm

[Just mythoughts]

And what year was it when the Clintons bought from Yeltsin, N.Korea. My guess is that we taxpayers were used to pay these scientists salaries after that adoption became final.

And one bit of history, Stalin was ‘owner’ of N.Korea and had agreed to leave at the end of WWII but then did NOT and made a secret pact with the Chinese to war against the ‘free’ nations when he boycotted the UN. Everybody seems to think that China is the controller of N.Korea but history if observed shows different.

And given the amount of supposed investment we taxpayers have had taken and invested into N.Korea, is it not just one bit interesting all that money for food and supposed nuclear for lighting up the night sky, yet N.Korea still is in darkness.

Now given we have this dragon they call global warming because of too much ‘light’ think maybe the liberal intent is to drive US to be more like N.Korea?

[TigerLikesRooster]

I suspect there were plenty of lower-level engineers and scientists who were not covered by this adoption program.

And some money sent from U.S. was probably siphoned off by officials in the middle.

So these folks have to peddle their skill elsewhere. Not important enough for Russia or U.S., but useful for axis-of-evil countries, who were glad to have any help they can get, even from lower-level engineers.

[Just mythoughts]

Even before this when the Soviets lost their ability to control the vast land masses, there was appropriated by Congress untold amounts of money to ‘contain’ Soviet nuclear.

I remember Lugar of IN being one of the principles in getting our dollars into Russia for the purpose of containment of Soviet nukes and peoples. I have NO doubt that initially our tax dollars assisted the majority of these hired (at whatever level) engineers until they could get better offers from the supposed third world nations.

But it was the Clintons stated public policy to ‘equalize’ all nations and it was specific to nuclear power, under the ‘guise’ of lighting up their night skies. I can remember that mad woman albright using these very words, and had to do with the fairness of US helping out the world in gaining nuclear power.

[hosepipe]

[ 32 Nuke Scientists from Former Soviet Union Had Resettled in N. Korea Since 1991 ]

North Korea is a drain field.. must be as punishment for something..

[Dr. Bogus Pachysandra]

“Scientists from former Soviet Union, Pakistan, and Iran walked into a bar... “

After several glasses of fermented goat urine, the Pakistani scientist says, “We have built a conventional atom bomb for Kim.” He reaches into his pocket and pulls out a photo of a very large nuclear device, and proudly shows it to the other scientists. “Unfortunately the underground test did not go well.”

After several more glasses of fermented camel urine, The Iranian scientist says,”We have built an atomic bomb for The Dear Leader that will fit into a missile.” He pulls a photo of a much smaller bomb from his pocket, and proudly displays it. “Unfortunately, the cheesy North Korean No Dong fell into the sea.”

After even more glasses of vodka, the Russian scientist says, “Dat’s nothink! We have made a 1,000 kiloton bomb that is no bigger than a wallet!” He reaches into his back pocket and pulls out what appears to be a wallet, but it has an ominous red button in it’s center. “Unfortunately, it has yet to be tested. Here, hold my vodka, and watch this!”

[SevenofNine]

That sound like all those starving scientists who fled Russia when Soviet Union fell apart said we build nukes for food