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Netherlands: Extreme Left more Dangerous than Extreme Right
NIS News ^ | April 22 2009

Posted on 04/22/2009 1:50:24 PM PDT by knighthawk

THE HAGUE, 23/04/09 - The AIVD secret service is concerned about far left and Islamic extremism. Conversely, there is scarcely any threat from the extreme right, according to the AIVD annual report on 2008.

The AIVD warns that radical Muslims often wear a mask. The service "has observed in the past year that the well-known Salafist centres (...) express themselves more moderately in public than in closed circles. Outwardly, they try to create the impression of fostering integration of Muslims into Dutch society, while behind closed doors, polarising statements are made that could have a negative effect on society in the longer term."

In 2008, it also "emerged that Moroccan Muslim youths are radicalising further," though this is happening "only on a limited scale," according to AIVD. This is mainly a matter of youngsters who, in a "radical Islamic youth culture," see a way "of finding a connection with a group that gives them their own identity in Dutch society and a way of acquiring recognition and a positive self-image."

In the Turkish community as well, "the number of individuals that (...) radicalise to Jihadism is growing." But "the resistance within the Turkish community to radical Islamic ideologies in general remains great." All in all, "no danger exists in the short and medium term of large-scale susceptibility to radical religious ideas" within the Turkish community, partly due to "a number of traditional resistance factors (such as Turkish nationalism)" and because of "a lack of a coherent ideology, inadequate organisational capacity and a shortage of leadership" among Turkish Muslim radicals.

For the Somali, Iraqi and Afghan communities in the Netherlands, the discordant situation in their country of origin is "no primary reason for radicalisation in the Diaspora." In the Iraqi and Afghan communities, "there is practically no question of a breeding-ground for radicalisation," and they appear to "avoid mutual controversies and confrontations with Dutch society." Within the Somali community on the other hand, a greater breeding-ground for radicalisation appears to be present. "Noteworthy is that along with this, their marginalised position in Dutch society is of greater importance than the unstable situation in Somalia."

The AIVD is also concerned about extreme left activism. The service sees an increase in intimidation by animal rights activists in 'home visits' to scientists and staff of companies directly or indirectly involved with animal testing. This trend will continue in 2009. AIVD also sees an increase in violent actions against deportations of illegal migrants, increasingly operating in small cells.

Remarkable is the AIVD's assessment of the Anti-Fascist and Capitalist Archive Collective (KAFKA). KAFKA is regularly cited by Dutch 'quality media' as a research institute into rightwing extremism, but its Antifascist Action (AFA) arm is in reality a movement that uses violence to achieve its goals.

"The picture is often evoked of antifascists defending themselves against aggressive rightwing extremists, while the roles are generally reversed." Especially at extreme-right Netherlands People's Union (NVU) demonstrations, AFA organises violent counter-demonstrations. They have these "carried out by third parties, such as local antifascists, riot-loving youths and football hooligans."

AFA has branches throughout the country and the support of a national secretariat. As well as through violence, AFA tries to combat rightwing extremism "by influencing local authorities". AFA has contacts with foreign kindred spirits, particularly in Germany.

The extreme right remains a pretty powerless movement. "As in previous years, the extreme right environment in the Netherlands remains characterised by fragmentation and splits" and "there is no question of a trend towards extreme right terrorism".


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anarchists; antifa; antifascist; blackshirts; communismkills; extremism; leftwingextremists; netherlands; notapeacemovement; starkravingsocialism

1 posted on 04/22/2009 1:50:24 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: MizSterious; Nix 2; green lantern; BeOSUser; Brad's Gramma; dreadme; Turk2; keri; ...

Ping


2 posted on 04/22/2009 1:51:57 PM PDT by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: knighthawk
"The picture is often evoked of antifascists defending themselves against aggressive rightwing extremists, while the roles are generally reversed."

Antifascist (or antifa as they sometimes call themselves) aren't what they claim to be. They are typically socialist. Sometimes anarchist-socialist (a political movement, they seek to overthrow YOUR form of governing, not all structured living). Sometimes communist.

They are the sort to label President Bush a fascist, FReepers fascist, and even this country (at least B.O. (before-Obama) as fascist.

They are often anti-police. Not against police over-reaction. Against any police action against their RIOTS. And they have been known to gather to riot (antifa groups in general, not this Dutch group specifically).

They will gather to shout down neo-nazis but the truth of the matter is they need those handful of bigoted neo-nazis to "excuse" their own hateful activities and gatherings/riots.

3 posted on 04/22/2009 1:59:45 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (IRONY - we know more about the First Dog's historical papers than we do of President Barack.)
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To: knighthawk
"Extreme Left more Dangerous than Extreme Right"

How come the Dutch government is smarter than the US government?

4 posted on 04/22/2009 2:00:06 PM PDT by ChicagahAl (Don't blame me. I voted for Sarah.)
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To: knighthawk

Its the same here. So Obama’s politically-motivated focus on the right will undoubtedly cost American lives.


5 posted on 04/22/2009 2:00:33 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: knighthawk
"Extreme Left more Dangerous than Extreme Right"

How come the Dutch government is smarter than the US government?

6 posted on 04/22/2009 2:01:48 PM PDT by ChicagahAl (Don't blame me. I voted for Sarah.)
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To: knighthawk

The ‘right’ in the Netherlands is probably very liberal by US standards


7 posted on 04/22/2009 2:02:36 PM PDT by GeronL (TYRANNY SENTINEL. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

It is, but at least there’s a shred of common sense.


8 posted on 04/22/2009 2:06:17 PM PDT by 12Gauge687 (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice)
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To: ChicagahAl

I guess the Dutch do not have a Muslim for President/Prime Minister....


9 posted on 04/22/2009 2:07:03 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (The Biggest Threat To American Soverignty Is Rampant Economic Anti-Americanism)
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To: knighthawk

Has anyone told DHS Secretary Janet “From another planet” Napolitano?


10 posted on 04/22/2009 2:07:21 PM PDT by 12Gauge687 (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice)
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To: ChicagahAl

In my visits to Holland, i have found the the Dutch are actually a very astute, practical and not politically correct people. They are very good business people, and have been for centuries. They are still infected with the appeasement syndrome though.


11 posted on 04/22/2009 2:07:22 PM PDT by ChinaThreat (3)
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To: skeeter
"Bill Ayers and his heirs aren't the violent terrorist extremists you are looking for." - Barack Obama


12 posted on 04/22/2009 2:07:27 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (IRONY - we know more about the First Dog's historical papers than we do of President Barack.)
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To: knighthawk

Well, duh.


13 posted on 04/22/2009 2:52:15 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: knighthawk

Thanks for the ping.


14 posted on 04/22/2009 5:38:10 PM PDT by GOPJ (The treatment of POWs will get worse? So far, all returned have been beheaded/mutilated-Doctor Raoul)
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To: GOPJ

At your service


15 posted on 04/24/2009 2:39:25 PM PDT by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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