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Lord Of The Flies Savages: Gang of Children Stripped, Beat And Tortured Boy, 15, Before....
Dail Mail (UK) ^ | April 28, 2009

Posted on 04/27/2009 11:06:16 PM PDT by Steelfish

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To: John Will

They played it on the 2003-2004 Death On The Road tour.


41 posted on 04/28/2009 2:26:29 PM PDT by wastedyears (Iron Maiden's gonna get ya, no matter how far!)
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To: Moltke
"The murder rate in the US is almost six times as high as in most western and central European countries"

Yes, unfortunately, that is true.

While not wanting to overly parse statistics, please keep a few points in mind. The story was about young children attempting to murder another young child. This was preceded by a somewhat similar recent incident in the UK. The parents who were interviewed and their lifestyles seem to be a major part of the problem. The ethnic background of the people involved was not disclosed, so I cannot address that issue, but it would be interesting to know. The appallingly modest punishment meted out is also a factor that argues for similar incidents in the future.

There are people in America who are not Americans, who do not consider themselves Americans, who do not conduct themselves as Americans and who will never be Americans. The black crime rate, for example, is ten times that of Caucasians and Asians, while the Hispanic crime rate is also significantly higher, especially for illegal immigrants. Given the number that you quoted, I think that would indicate that people of European or Asian ancestry, in America, have a lower crime rate than Europeans in Europe.

The nutbag Left has made inroads into every country in the world, so no place is as peaceful and safe as it should be. We in America, cannot fight the barbarians of the world alone. We need other countries to be willing to step up and fight along with us. We have been able to count on the UK and Australia, more than anyone else. Australia seems to be taking a stand, of sorts, against being taken over by third world immigrants. While many of the news reports we read from the UK are worrisome. If the news can be believed, it would seem that the UK is slowly sinking under the weight of third world immigrants, who have even had success in causing British politicians to consider allowing Sharia Law. We read of homeowners being imprisoned for defending themselves from intruders. While the UK doesn't yet have a thousand automobiles burned every night, like France, it appears the UK is headed in that direction.

Here in the US, we recently had protests across the country, regarding excessive taxation, and against a dearth of personal responsibility. To my knowledge, there were no arrests, no vandalism, no violence, and no uncivilized behavior of any kind, to report.

The entire world is less civilized than it used to be, certainly. But some countries are slipping away faster than others. Preteens attempting murder for sport, portends poorly for the future.

42 posted on 04/28/2009 11:55:05 PM PDT by ChicagahAl (Don't blame me. I voted for Sarah.)
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To: ChicagahAl

Well, as I’ve intimated earlier, we both could probably spend all day “tweaking numbers” - who contributes how much to what statistic etc. - but that really isn’t my main point. Yep, there’s a deplorable culture of youth binge drinking and associated violence (and violence in general) in the UK these days, but don’t extend this to the rest of Europe (somehow this always happens here: something goes awry in one European country and suddenly all of Europe is lost?).

And there are many who take a stand against being “taken over by immigrants” in Europe - but sensationalist reporting seldom dwells on that fact, and, lets face it, there are many FReepers who just love to bash Europe (somehow it’s like calling your own mother a bitch, so go figure...).

Since you mention Australia - you may have missed reports about middle-eastern immigrant youths gang-raping Aussie chicks as a pastime, as well as mass gang fights etc. They have enough muzzie problems of their own and still let them in.

Cheers


43 posted on 04/29/2009 4:47:08 AM PDT by Moltke
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To: Moltke
So, we just ignore the main causes of the crime. Europe can bash us as much as they want and we are supposed to shut up and take it. We “bash Europe” if we point out their problems. Funny how that works. ;0)
44 posted on 04/29/2009 5:48:04 AM PDT by seemoAR
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To: DoughtyOne

Hell, if you pay me I would think that it is a great idea also.


45 posted on 04/29/2009 5:53:34 AM PDT by sport
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To: sport

No you wouldn’t. It would bother you. If you’ve got character, you couldn’t do this.

When I was a nineteen year old kid, I became eligible for unemployment. I took one check, and refused to pick up any further. I knew I could go out and find a job, and I wouldn’t take it. I hadn’t worked in the system very long, and it just wasn’t right.


46 posted on 04/29/2009 10:29:32 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Obama's own grandmother says he was born in Kenya. She was there.)
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To: seemoAR

No need to ignore anything. And no need imply that Europe bashes the US but the US cannot bash Europe. I’ve lived double-digit years both in the US and Europe. Americans and Europeans are not enemies but friends (for the most part, at least). Don’t fall for agenda-driven propaganda.

Cheers.


47 posted on 04/29/2009 11:01:26 AM PDT by Moltke
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To: DoughtyOne

I still subscribe to the blank slate theory. The problem is that the world is so full of insanity and evil that they corrupt very quickly without proper guidance.


48 posted on 05/01/2009 6:37:57 PM PDT by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: Soothesayer

My take on it is that youth corrupt with no outside influence. That doesn’t mean that they have evil intent. It just means that like you said, they need to have adult supervision until they grow old enough to understand right from wrong.

They do have a blank slate, but even natural curiosity presents them with so many poor choices, that without adult supervision, children would grow up to be quite evil indeed.

It would be evil born of innocence, but evil none the less.

You don’t need to be exposed to the world at large, to be selfish, to covet the possessions of others. It’s a natural instinct, and one that needs course correction along the way. This is only one example of a natural urge that needs to be molded into something healthy.

This is only my take on it, so take it for what it is.


49 posted on 05/02/2009 9:29:40 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Obama's own grandmother says he was born in Kenya. She was there.)
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