[SkyPilot]

If we use the term war hero too loosely it starts to lose it's special meaning. However, if Cleland took enemy fire for this country, I have no problem if one of the terms used to describe him is war hero. Since John Kerry unquestionably took enemy fire on behalf the USA, I consider him a war hero, regardless of whatever else he is.

You stopped making sense after your first sentence.

Cleland was injured during an accident. Hero is not the word.

I served in the military and "took fire" but there is absolutely no way in hell I would ever, ever, ever apply the word heroic to me.

Kerry is a fraud and liar. Read the book "Unfit for Command" and details and testimonies of his contemporaries. These facts are indisputable.

[PittsburghAfterDark]

If Cleland suffered the injuries that are so visible now during an accident yet won numerous citations in combat as cited in this thread he is indeed a war hero.

This is like saying a CMOH winner isn’t a war hero because he survived the encounter that distinguished him to such a degree yet lost two legs in a mortar training accident. Really, if you’re not going to look at the entirety of a person’s career you just look like a fool.

[RVN Airplane Driver]

Since John Kerry unquestionably took enemy fire on behalf the USA, I consider him a war hero, regardless of whatever else he is.

If you consider anyone who got shot at in RVN a hero the your defination is counter to most of us who were there who got shot at! Kerry may have gotten shot at but I guarantee you it wasn't because he was a hero...by all accounts when the shooting started he went the other way as fast as his motor boat would take him. As for Sanders..what a pompous @$$...I had some email discussions with him during the campaign about his boy kerry's claims which anyone who was there knew was lies. I suspect Sanders got his hero medals the same way kerry got his...by writing them up himself!