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President Obama will deliver a speech on June 4 in Egypt on America's relationship with Muslims
CNN ^ | 5/8/2009 | Staff

Posted on 05/08/2009 12:03:50 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA

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To: Red in Blue PA

He has to re-establish his foreign policy bona fides after acknowledging his inability to speak Austrian and celebrating Cinco de Quatro.


41 posted on 05/08/2009 1:21:09 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Red in Blue PA

They can keep him. And his tacky wife too.


42 posted on 05/08/2009 1:24:04 PM PDT by Evie Munchkin (Sarah in 2012!)
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To: DBrow
(1) Murtad Fitri means a person born of a Muslim parent and then he rejects Islam. Fitri means nature or natural. The term "murtad fitri" implies that the person has apostated from his nature, the nature of believing in God.

(2) "Murtad Milli" means a person who converted to Islam and then later on he rejects Islam. Milli is from millat which means a community. The term "murtad milli" implies that the person has apostated from his community.

In the first case, the apostacy is like treason against God; whereas in the second case, the apostacy is like treason against the Muslim community. Probably, that is why there is also a difference in dealing with these two kinds of murtads:

A former kãfir who became a Muslim and then apostates (Murtad milli) is given a second chance; if he repents, then he is not to be killed.

But one who is born as a Muslim and then apostates (Murtad Fitri) he is to be killed even if he repents. His repentance might be accepted by Allãh but he still has to go through the punishment prescribed for his treason in this world.

This punishment is only applicable in case of apostacy by men; in case of women, the punishment is not death but life imprisonment. And if such a woman repents, then her repentance is accepted and the punishment is suspended.

Sayyid Muhammad Rizvi

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43 posted on 05/08/2009 1:30:56 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power with a passion for evil.)
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To: kellynla

Bravo


44 posted on 05/08/2009 1:31:50 PM PDT by patriot08
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To: Red in Blue PA

A speech! My God, our leader will give a speech! Inspired leadership, we are SAVED!!!!!!!


45 posted on 05/08/2009 1:39:57 PM PDT by henkster (The GOP is housebroken window-dressing displayed to portray the fiction of a Republic.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

“President Obama will deliver a speech on June 4 in Egypt on America’s relationship with Muslims”

Why?


46 posted on 05/08/2009 1:49:50 PM PDT by DeadFurrow (My rights end where yours begins.)
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They kill 4000 US Citizens...and we go out of our way to appease them....and say, we love you.


47 posted on 05/08/2009 2:07:11 PM PDT by Blue Turtle
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To: Red in Blue PA

There is nothing to be said. America is a Christian nation. America is more Christian than India is Hindu.

The kuran is a terrorist manual with explicit instructions to kill or convert all non-muslims. Only a suicidal country would allow believers of this cult free entry.


48 posted on 05/08/2009 2:24:27 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out (click my name)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Is June 4 significant in the muzzy world? Wait a minute, I just answered my own question. Louis Farakahn likes to reference the number 19 a lot. 6 plus 4 plus 09 equals 19.
And the media will bend over. Ought to be interesting.


49 posted on 05/08/2009 2:25:20 PM PDT by Texas resident (Older but smarter)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Salam Aleikum. Is this going to be in English? Peppered with Arab (Islamic) phrases? Bismillah al rahman al rahim? Wassalam. I will be paying very close attention.


50 posted on 05/08/2009 2:25:33 PM PDT by bergmeid
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51 posted on 05/08/2009 2:25:33 PM PDT by dead
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Asked if Egypt was a bad location for such an important speech given its poor human rights record, White House spokesman Robert Gibbs told reporters: “It is a country that in many ways represents the heart of the Arab world.

“The scope of the speech, the desire for the president to speak (to the Muslim world), is bigger than where the speech was going to be given or who’s the leadership of the country where the speech is going to be given,”....

“This is a continuing effort of the president to engage the Muslim world. The president has high hopes for a stronger relationship,” Gibbs said.

“All of this gives the president the opportunity hopefully to extend the hand to those that in many ways are like us but simply have a different religion.”

Gibbs said that during the overseas trip, Obama would also travel to the German city of Dresden and the Buchenwald concentration camp complex, which was set up by the Nazis during World War Two. Obama’s great uncle liberated one of the camps at Buchenwald.

http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE54754920090508


52 posted on 05/08/2009 2:31:26 PM PDT by VRWCTexan (History has a long memory - but still repeats itself)
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To: Puppage

>>>> Will he open or close with how bad, evil & arrogant America is? <<<<<

Yes. Both. Open and close.


53 posted on 05/08/2009 2:45:09 PM PDT by angkor
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To: Red in Blue PA

I’m sure Obama has a great great great grandfather that was in charge of the ink well at the signing of the Declaration of Independence on June 4th, 1776. ;-)


54 posted on 05/08/2009 2:45:30 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Obama's own grandmother says he was born in Kenya. She was there.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Stay there obama!!..you don’t speak for me!!


55 posted on 05/08/2009 2:50:34 PM PDT by angelcindy (c)
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To: Red in Blue PA

He can speak on his relationship with them, but he can’t speak for me and the lack of relationship on my part.


56 posted on 05/08/2009 2:56:36 PM PDT by TennTuxedo
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To: Red in Blue PA

May I suggest that “President” not be used in posts headlines. Just make it Obama.


57 posted on 05/08/2009 3:11:43 PM PDT by unkus
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To: Texas resident

Is June 4 significant in the muzzy world?

They use a lunar calendar. Its dates fluctate in relation to ours every year. So every June 4 on the Gregorian calendar is a different day on the Islamic calendar.
58 posted on 05/08/2009 4:25:38 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (I'm learning Arabic, Farsi, Urdu, Pashtu, and Russian so someday you won't have to)
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To: Red in Blue PA; LucyT
Obama Spokesman Robert Gibbs Issued A Statement Explaining That "Senator Obama Has Never Been A Muslim, Was Not Raised As A Muslim, And Is A Committed Christian." "Obama's campaign aides have emphasized his strong Christian beliefs and downplayed any Islamic connection. The Illinois senator was raised 'in a secular household in Indonesia by his stepfather and mother,’ his chief spokesman, Robert Gibbs, said in a statement in January after false reports began circulating that Obama had attended a radical madrasa, or Koranic school, as a child. 'To be clear, Senator Obama has never been a Muslim, was not raised a Muslim, and is a committed Christian who attends the United Church of Christ in Chicago,’ Gibbs' Jan. 24 statement said." [Los Angeles Times, 3/16/07]

Yeah....effing right....WTF? How much Muslim booty is this freak gonna kiss?

59 posted on 05/08/2009 4:29:40 PM PDT by Polarik (Forgeries are forever)
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To: G8 Diplomat

*fluctuate


60 posted on 05/08/2009 4:30:31 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (I'm learning Arabic, Farsi, Urdu, Pashtu, and Russian so someday you won't have to)
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