Ancient Greece's 'global warming'

American Thinker ^ | May 08, 2009 | Ben-Peter Terpstra

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks!

[coconutt2000]

I bet each time the climate started to change strange religions popped up with priests promising to “stop” the changes “if only” the people would turn over all their possessions, lives, and efforts to the “temple” as a sign of faith and submission to the will of the god(s).

Geez, sounds familiar...

[NELSON111]

BTTTFL

[SunkenCiv]

• The Dark Age Of Greece: Celestial Events in the Iliad by Immanuel Velikovsky

  ...It appears, however, that in the Iliad Homer telescoped into a few weeks events that took place in the space of several decades. At least some of the events may be placed in a chronological order with the help of ancient Israelite sources: namely, on the day when King Ahaz was interred the motion of the Earth was disturbed so that the Sun set before its appointed time; ...In Greek legendary tradition the first event took place in the days of the two brothers, Atreus and Thyestes, contesting the throne of Mycenae... The fixing of the event to the early spring of -687 is made on the strength of the information from Hebrew sources that the event took place on the night of Passover, during the second campaign of Sennacherib against Judah, the ninth campaign of his reign. The exact date for the last of this series of catastrophes is provided by the records of the astronomical observations of the Chinese... in the year -687, on the 23rd of March... Romulus was a contemporary of Hezekiah; and the 23rd of March was the most important day in the Roman cult of Mars... The siege of Troy under Agamemnon followed by less than one generation the natural disturbances of the days of his father Atreus, when this king of Mycenae competed with his brother Thyestes for the crown of the realm and the Sun was disrupted in its motion. Atreus and Thyestes, being contemporaries of Ahaz and Hezekiah, and Agamemnon, son of Atreus, a contemporary of the latter king of Jerusalem, it seems that the time in which the drama of the Iliad was set was the second half of the eighth century, and not later than -687; yet the poet condensed the events separated by decades into the tenth year of the Trojan siege, the time of the Iliad's action. Thus we come to realize that it was a rather late time; clearly Homer could not have lived before the events he described; and therefore Homer's time cannot be any earlier than the end of the eighth century. But more probably he wrote several decades after the Trojan War...

[SunkenCiv]

Note: this topic is from 5/08/2009. Thanks neverdem.

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[LadyDoc]

Professor Brian Fagan has a lot of books on how Climate change in history changed history. Right now, I'm reading the Great Warming, on how the see saw of climate from hot to cold to warm in 12000 bc encouraged men to evolve new ways to cope (i.e. plant crops).

He believes in global warming, and is worried about climate change today. When asked at a meeting what people should plan to do in the future when things got hotter, he sardonically said "move to Canada", because he figures no matter what we do the climate will change. My problem is that the problem is pollution, but the same ones who oppose global warming also oppose chemicals and GM crops.

China has a huge pollution problem, but what if the alternative is the massive famines in the past? Yet you might read how China "lowered their carbon output"...the naive think this was from lowering smoke from factories, but it wasn't: it was from changing how they grow rice.

So one quarter or so of China's carbon output is from decaying weeds producing methane in rice paddies. They lowered their carbon output by using "dry" preparation of rice fields. You use herbicides, only one irrigation to get rid of weeds and then use hybrid or GM rice that grows with less water. Voila, less rotting weeds, less carbon, and more rice.

a report on this here.

PDF here

[SunkenCiv]

Note: this topic is from 5/08/2009. A re-ping that seems apropos to me, only because we got our first snowfall overnight. Thanks neverdem.

[Monkey Face]

Interesting!

Thanks!

[bert]

Fantastic.... I always like to take history in very long perspective. By referencing the change noted by the Greeks the current Chicken Little scare is viewed in a better context

Algore is not Chicken Little but rather Quacky Lacky

[Tainan]

Thank you for that rice in China info.

[mbj]

Surely you must secretly be one of those pro-sun-god, anti-climate-change people!

;-)