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I know this is just going to get a lot of grief from the BDS crowd but I resent the Meme of Bush spending was out of control. Several reasons to object:

1. Its anti constitutional and refuses to hold Congress accountable as the proper primary agent.

2. Bush reduced the deficit in several of his years in office-- particularly those after the tax cuts were in full effect and prior to the current recession of 2008.

3. Bush held the growth of non discretionary non security related spending to less than 1 percent. That is parsing a lot, but those are conservative parsings that emphasize security.

4. Bush pushed for earmark transparency that began the process of accountability for stopping this process. Without it it would remain anonymous.

5. Bush Tarp plan had a 5% payback for taxpayers.

6. Bush spent only half of his tarp plan

7. Bush tax cuts did increase revenue to the government by 35%

8. The economy and the budget worsened profoundly after the Democrats won control of Congress in 2006. This is consistently ignored.

9. Bush spent a lot of money defending US citizens at HOME and abroad. That was money well spent and intrinsic to a conservative zeal for government. Conservatives are not anarchists who want an end to government. They want government to fulfill consitutional roles. Security is central to that conservative concept.

1 posted on 05/08/2009 9:12:19 PM PDT by lonestar67
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To: lonestar67
1. Its anti constitutional and refuses to hold Congress accountable as the proper primary agent.

Deflecting responsibility to the Congress...yet neglecting the responsibility of the executive to use the veto pen as a check on Congressional power.

5. Bush Tarp plan had a 5% payback for taxpayers.

TARP was--and still is--unconstitutional.

6. Bush spent only half of his tarp plan

So?

Security is central to that conservative concept.

I just want to point out that, in general, there is a very fine line between "security" and a police or nanny state.

2 posted on 05/08/2009 9:19:49 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: djsherin; rabscuttle385; calcowgirl; PhilCollins; spintreebob; trumandogz; Huck; lakertaker; ...

I told you lone-bushbot was working for Bush. Would you like a job like his? To convince us of what his post says? Talk about swimming upstream!


3 posted on 05/08/2009 9:19:51 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama /Pelosi/Bush Theme : "A dollar borrowed or printed is a dollar earned!")
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To: lonestar67

I object to you defining me as BDS because I disagree with every one of the phony Bush points you list. Get real. All smoke and mirrors.


4 posted on 05/08/2009 9:25:58 PM PDT by spyone (ridiculum)
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To: lonestar67
What kind of drugs are you on???? Are they prescription??? Where can I get them, I plan on putting the Mexicans out of business.
8 posted on 05/08/2009 9:34:20 PM PDT by org.whodat (Auto unions bad: Machinists union good=Hypocrisy)
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To: lonestar67

News, maybe you should have also listed it as breaking!!!!


9 posted on 05/08/2009 9:36:47 PM PDT by org.whodat (Auto unions bad: Machinists union good=Hypocrisy)
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To: lonestar67

Bush is in the top 10 greatest Presidents ever.


12 posted on 05/08/2009 9:39:14 PM PDT by Brimack34
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To: lonestar67
You might add that had Bush NOT signed the prescription drug bill into law, Canadian drugs which are priced according to their socialist Gov't's policies would have robbed our medical companies of billions in revenue.

This is hardly ever discussed.

I believe that a lot of the damage happened AFTER the Dems took Congress in '06 is no coincidence. They WANTED to smash the economy and blame Bush for a reason. To get what they have today. The WH and Congress.

17 posted on 05/08/2009 9:43:33 PM PDT by what's up
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To: lonestar67

Sure. More than $50 Billion sent to Africa to fight Aids.

That’s really fiscally conservative.


20 posted on 05/08/2009 9:45:07 PM PDT by Politicalmom ("Energy prices will necessarily skyrocket"-Zero)
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To: lonestar67
The 2003 tax cuts were good, but they were the ones for which W had the least input (the dividend tax cut). He was adamantly opposed to the capital gains tax cut, which got in.

All his other tax cuts (mostly the rebates) were utter failures, and gave tax cuts a bad reputation. He left the GOP and the country in a shambles that led to the most liberal senator being elected president.

21 posted on 05/08/2009 9:45:07 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: lonestar67
Yeah, Bush gets blamed for everything that happened in his 8 years as president. That's the way it works.

There is a difference though if you are a Bill Clinton and leave our country wide open for a terrorist attack that leaves at least 3000 dead Americans, a recession, a downsized military and a Intellegence Service demoralized and budget cut. That's just a small list of Clinton failures, but no one hated him or placed blame on Clinton, a democrat.

Don't worry about it, history on Bush is yet to be written.

President Bush is a good man and loves this country. I think now we have in power what we as a nation deserve.

22 posted on 05/08/2009 9:46:18 PM PDT by BARLF
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To: lonestar67

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2247429/posts


38 posted on 05/08/2009 10:35:22 PM PDT by org.whodat (Auto unions bad: Machinists union good=Hypocrisy)
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To: lonestar67

What color is the sky in your world?

One has to only think of the massively expansive, horrendously expensive federal power grab that was No Child Left Behind, which President Bush supported and happily signed onto, to understand that your premise is wrong.

No amount of post-game whitewashing will ever make that mess right.


42 posted on 05/08/2009 10:53:02 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Mitt Romney: Collect the whole set!)
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To: lonestar67
 
http://www.cbo.gov/budget/historical.shtml 
 
Table F-1.                               
Revenues, Outlays, Surpluses, Deficits, and Debt Held by the Public, 1969 to 2008        
(Billions of dollars)                            
                               
                   Deficit (-) or Surplus    
Debt
 
          On- Social Postal    
Held by
 
  Revenues Outlays Budget Security Service  Total
the Publica
 
                               
                               
1969 186.9   183.6   -0.5   3.7  
n.a.
  3.2   278.1    
                               
1970 192.8   195.6   -8.7   5.9  
n.a.
  -2.8   283.2    
1971 187.1   210.2   -26.1   3.0  
n.a.
  -23.0   303.0    
1972 207.3   230.7   -26.1   3.1   -0.4   -23.4   322.4    
1973 230.8   245.7   -15.2   0.5   -0.2   -14.9   340.9    
1974 263.2   269.4   -7.2   1.8   -0.8   -6.1   343.7    
1975 279.1   332.3   -54.1   2.0   -1.1   -53.2   394.7    
1976 298.1   371.8   -69.4   -3.2   -1.1   -73.7   477.4    
1977 355.6   409.2   -49.9   -3.9   0.2   -53.7   549.1    
1978 399.6   458.7   -55.4   -4.3   0.5   -59.2   607.1    
1979 463.3   504.0   -39.6   -2.0   0.9   -40.7   640.3    
                               
1980 517.1   590.9   -73.1   -1.1   0.4   -73.8   711.9    
1981 599.3   678.2   -73.9   -5.0   -0.1   -79.0   789.4    
1982 617.8   745.7   -120.6   -7.9   0.6   -128.0   924.6    
1983 600.6   808.4   -207.7   0.2   -0.3   -207.8   1,137.3    
1984 666.5   851.9   -185.3   0.3   -0.4   -185.4   1,307.0    
1985 734.1   946.4   -221.5   9.4   -0.1   -212.3   1,507.3    
1986 769.2   990.4   -237.9   16.7   
0.0
  -221.2   1,740.6    
1987 854.4   1,004.1   -168.4   19.6   -0.9   -149.7   1,889.8    
1988 909.3   1,064.5   -192.3   38.8   -1.7   -155.2   2,051.6    
1989 991.2   1,143.8   -205.4   52.4   0.3   -152.6   2,190.7    
                               
1990 1,032.1   1,253.1   -277.6   58.2   -1.6   -221.0   2,411.6    
1991 1,055.1   1,324.3   -321.4   53.5   -1.3   -269.2   2,689.0    
1992 1,091.3   1,381.6   -340.4   50.7   -0.7   -290.3   2,999.7    
1993 1,154.5   1,409.5   -300.4   46.8   -1.4   -255.1   3,248.4    
1994 1,258.7   1,461.9   -258.8   56.8   -1.1   -203.2   3,433.1    
1995 1,351.9   1,515.9   -226.4   60.4   2.0   -164.0   3,604.4    
1996 1,453.2   1,560.6   -174.0   66.4   0.2   -107.4   3,734.1    
1997 1,579.4   1,601.3   -103.2   81.3  
0.0
  -21.9   3,772.3    
1998 1,722.0   1,652.7   -29.9   99.4   -0.2   69.3   3,721.1    
1999 1,827.6   1,702.0   1.9   124.7   -1.0   125.6   3,632.4    
                               
2000 2,025.5   1,789.2   86.4   151.8   -2.0   236.2   3,409.8    
2001 1,991.4   1,863.2   -32.4   163.0   -2.3   128.2   3,319.6    
2002 1,853.4   2,011.2   -317.4   159.0   0.7   -157.8   3,540.4    
2003 1,782.5   2,160.1   -538.4   155.6   5.2   -377.6   3,913.4    
2004 1,880.3   2,293.0   -568.0   151.1   4.1   -412.7   4,295.5    
2005 2,153.9   2,472.2   -493.6   173.5   1.8   -318.3   4,592.2    
2006 2,407.3   2,655.4   -434.5   185.2   1.1   -248.2   4,829.0    
2007 2,568.2   2,728.9   -342.2   186.5   -5.1   -160.7   5,035.1    
2008 2,524.3   2,982.9   -641.8   180.8   2.4   -458.5   5,802.7    
                               
                               
Source:  Congressional Budget Office.                      
Note: n.a. = not applicable (the Postal Service was not an independent agency until 1972); * = between -$50 million and $50 million.
                               
a. End of year.                            
                               
                               
                               
                               
revised: 4/14/09                            

44 posted on 05/09/2009 12:45:25 AM PDT by calcowgirl (RECALL Abel Maldonado! - NO on Props 1A 1B 1C 1D 1E 1F)
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To: lonestar67
Bush = fiscal conservative

You Orwellian douche.
45 posted on 05/09/2009 1:23:31 AM PDT by LanaTurnerOverdrive ("I've done a few things in my life I'm not proud of, and the things I am proud of are disgusting.")
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To: lonestar67

Even in his budget analysis document, he admitted the crisis was coming if he kept going the way he was.


49 posted on 05/09/2009 6:23:22 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: lonestar67

Bush was not a fiscal conservative in any sense of the term.


53 posted on 05/09/2009 9:57:29 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: lonestar67; rabscuttle385; sickoflibs

This is just laughable at this point. I don’t know what possessed you to start this thread.

Pretend Bush was a democrat for a second. Do you still love his record?

Bush was a fiscal conservative in the same sense that democrats in the suburbs claim to be, ie not at all.


60 posted on 05/09/2009 5:09:21 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: lonestar67
Take your Bush-Goggles off and look at reality.

Bush did not veto even one Democrat/Rino spending plan his entire first term. Then after that, I can count the number he vetoed on one hand.

In addition to his tax cuts, he increased spending and increased the size of government even bigger than Clinton did. Thanks mostly to a Stock Market bubble and his resulting tax cuts, the economy thrived on rampant irresponsible credit lending.

If Bush had not nearly doubled the size of government spending, the deficit would have gone down much more than it did.

And giving Bush credit for only spending “half” of the TARP money in 2008 is downright comical. We all know that he should have stuck to his guns and refused to let it pass, which would have allowed the free market system to settle it, which it what it has finally done now all on it's own. The TARP money was a complete waste, without a dime going back the taxpayers. Instead, we have a growing and unconscionable future debt.

But the biggest damage Bush did to this country was his inability to stand up to the MSM and counter their rhetoric and lies. Thanks to Bush hatred syndrome, we now have Obama as POTUS and a super majority of Democrats in Congress and the Senate.

That my FRiend, is the REAL Bush legacy.

67 posted on 05/10/2009 4:58:22 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Give me LIBERTY or give me an M-24A2!)
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