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Dirty Dancing: Christian High School Suspends Student for Attending a School Prom
Jonathan Turley Blog ^ | 5/10/2009 | Jonathan Turley

Posted on 05/10/2009 11:01:19 AM PDT by wastedpotential

Tyler Frost, 17, a senior at Heritage Christian School in Findlay, Ohio has been suspended for attending a prom with his girlfriend because the Findlay High School’s prom allowed dancing and music. This Taliban-like ruling is based on the Christian school’s policy that forbids dancing, rock music, hand holding and kissing.

Principal Tim England says that Frost was supposed to receive his diploma on May 24 but will now receive an “incomplete” on his remaining assignments. He absence will be hard to miss: he is in a class of four students.

England further threatens that, if he learns that Frost “is involved with alcohol or sex” at the prom, he will be expelled from Heritage. Frost’s family is planning a lawsuit against the school.

Much like the recent case involving a Christian college’s suspension of a porn star, the case raises the right of religious institutions to enforce their moral code. The school describes rock music as “part of the counterculture which seeks to implant seeds of rebellion in young people’s hearts and minds.” It also forbids physical contact between girls and boys in grades 7-12. England stated “For the parents to claim any injustice regarding this issue is at best forgetful and at worst disingenuous. It is our hope that the student and his parents will abide by the policies they have already agreed to.”

He may have a point. Like the Taliban, these Christians reject music, dancing and other modern habits. I find them perfectly medieval but they have a right to run a school according to their beliefs so long as they meet the state requirements and regulations. If Frost finds the school to be in the dark ages, he and his family should not support such a place with their tuition dollars. Notably, Frost asked permission to do to the prom and England signed a form allowing him to go, but threatened that there would be “consequences” for his decision. England noted “In life, we constantly make decisions whether we are going to please self or please God. (Frost) chose one path, and the School Committee chose the other.”

While by no means as extreme in their measures or subject matter, other schools have been allowed to discipline students for their statements and conduct outside of school, here. Schools have also punished staff and teachers for outside activities viewed as inappropriate, here.

On its website, the school issued this statement:

. . . at the beginning of the school year, every family must sign a statement of cooperation.

Students in 7th through 12th grades must also sign it. It doesn’t say that you have to agree with them, but that we will all abide by them. What kind of a school would we be if we suspended a policy because it was convenient to do so? That would not be a Christ-like response. Jesus did not avoid trouble. He made statements such as, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No man cometh unto the Father but by me” (John 14:6). His statements didn’t make Him popular with the world. Can we expect anything else? The verses that I have thought of throughout this day are Matthew 5:11-12, “Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.” Wow! I can build up a whole lot of rewards in heaven today, and so can you.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: christian; christianschools; discipline; frost; heritage; prom; turley
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Turley is a liberal hatchet man most of the time. His Taliban comparison is completely invalid, but his conclusion that the school has the right in our democracy to have its own rules is surprising.

I graduated from this school and live about a mile away. I don't send my kids there, but to a different Christian school, precisely because of these policies. That is why I think the teen and the parents are disingenuous when they say they had no idea this might happen.

1 posted on 05/10/2009 11:01:19 AM PDT by wastedpotential
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To: wastedpotential

I agree. I think the policy is not-my-style, but it is a private school and the parents and child agreed to the rules.


2 posted on 05/10/2009 11:06:32 AM PDT by conservative cat (America, you have been PWNED!)
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To: wastedpotential

They thought they would receive a free ride!


3 posted on 05/10/2009 11:08:20 AM PDT by handy old one (It is unbecoming for young men to utter maxims. Aristotle)
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To: wastedpotential

private school...live by the rules or go elsewhere

this is like the Grove City College Homosexual Porn guy thread yesterday


4 posted on 05/10/2009 11:09:05 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: wastedpotential
This Taliban-like ruling is based on the Christian school’s policy that forbids dancing, rock music, hand holding and kissing

Why is it even an issue in a country that generally honors "Kosher for Passover," feeds Gitmo detainees special menus, even, going way back, served fish sticks for school lunch every Friday to respect (I guess ) pre -Vatican II dietary restrictions?

5 posted on 05/10/2009 11:09:08 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: wastedpotential
Fobidding dancing away from campus, now there's a stretch. I guess the parents of these kids have really turned them over to the school to do the parenting.

Yes, private schools have the right to be idiotic.

6 posted on 05/10/2009 11:11:26 AM PDT by nufsed (Release the birth certificate, school and passport records.)
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To: wardaddy

Yeah, that was truly ridiculous - why are you going to a Christian college if you want to pay your way as a gay porn star? Hello?


7 posted on 05/10/2009 11:12:19 AM PDT by wastedpotential (McCain always said I was an agent of intolerance, but we were the ones who tolerated him most)
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To: nufsed

Yes, they have the right, but I agree with you - parents should be in charge of their kids until they are old enough to think for themselves. I don’t think a school or government should try to usurp that role.


8 posted on 05/10/2009 11:13:37 AM PDT by wastedpotential (McCain always said I was an agent of intolerance, but we were the ones who tolerated him most)
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To: wastedpotential
This article has NOTHING to do with the people in it...the ONLY reason the bastard produced it was to LABLE ALL CHRISTIANS as TALIBAN-like.

It is done often and totally on purpose it is to constantly put in the public view a condemning viewpoint for all to constantly feast on so that when ANYTHING comes up and a Christian is involved (especially in things related to law and government) they are already maligned and the whole framing of the argument no longer requires facts...just hatred for Christians.

Now, before anyone goes off on me re-read it carefully...I am NOT at all addressing the merits of the school, its rules, the student mentioned or anything else...just the liberal rat from hell who wrote the article.

9 posted on 05/10/2009 11:14:33 AM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: nufsed

I agree


10 posted on 05/10/2009 11:17:07 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: wastedpotential
It might seem a little over the top, but it's a private school, and they have rules. Don't like then, go somewhere else.

It does remind me of a joke

Q: Why are Baptists opposed to sex standing up?

A: Could lead to dancing.

11 posted on 05/10/2009 11:19:24 AM PDT by MAexile (Bats left, votes right)
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This Taliban-like ruling is based on the Christian school’s policy that forbids dancing, rock music, hand holding and kissing.

Somehow I don't see the Taliban of being big enforcers of contracts.

12 posted on 05/10/2009 11:20:04 AM PDT by krb (Obama is a miserable failure.)
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To: wastedpotential

Spent my freshman year at Baylor in 87. Don’t know if they still do, but at the time, dancing on campus was forbidden.


13 posted on 05/10/2009 11:20:21 AM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG 49) "Freedom's Fortress")
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To: ICE-FLYER

I agree - there is no valid comparison to the Taliban. This is a private school deciding to punish a student for breaking its rules. This is not being pushed on the general populace against their will at gun point.

The only reason I posted something from Turley here was I was surprised he is not offering to sue the school pro bono for the parents - which is what they are trying to do.


14 posted on 05/10/2009 11:21:32 AM PDT by wastedpotential (McCain always said I was an agent of intolerance, but we were the ones who tolerated him most)
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To: wastedpotential
Why did the Principal sign a permission slip in the first place, I'm confused by that.
15 posted on 05/10/2009 11:22:05 AM PDT by mimaw
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To: wastedpotential

I think it if were me and I was already suspended, I’d to the other two things and get expelled too!

Buncha nuts...


16 posted on 05/10/2009 11:24:56 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: mimaw

The form is only a statement that the student attends such and such a school and is in good standing. It is required by the other school hosting the prom for anyone attending as a security measure. The principal initially refused to even acknowledge this, effectively not letting him go, but the teen pointed out what it was asking, and he signed it, leaving the decision up to the kid with full knowledge of the consequences.

Again, I think it is a little strange that the current administration treats it this way, but they are entitled to discipline the kid (within reason) for breaking their rules.


17 posted on 05/10/2009 11:26:02 AM PDT by wastedpotential (McCain always said I was an agent of intolerance, but we were the ones who tolerated him most)
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To: wastedpotential
England further threatens that, if he learns that Frost “is involved with alcohol or sex” at the prom, he will be expelled from Heritage.

While the school has the right to set their own rules, they are going to have a really difficult time proving that their student was involved with alcohol or sex at the prom.

Don't go there Mr. England or you will loose a big lawsuit.

18 posted on 05/10/2009 11:28:43 AM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: bigbob

Well, he was caught on tape last night holding the girls hand going into the prom (the story led the 11:00 news in Toledo last night if you can believe that), so I am sure he will have further repercussions.

There is rock radio station that is threatening to protest across the street from the school tomorrow, holding their Monday morning broadcast there. One website reported they were going to have Footloose type dance competitions as well going on. Also, if the kid decides to show and make them suspend him from the school, the cameras will be rolling. Talk about a circus.


19 posted on 05/10/2009 11:29:03 AM PDT by wastedpotential (McCain always said I was an agent of intolerance, but we were the ones who tolerated him most)
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To: wastedpotential
Those wacky kids...I don't see a problem with DANCING but what most kids call "Dancing" these days isn't!!
20 posted on 05/10/2009 11:29:14 AM PDT by jakerobins
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