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To: SeekAndFind
I think there is a "gay gene" (or genes). I have known too many homosexual men and women who are convinced that they were programmed from birth to be homosexual and could never be otherwise, and I have known too many people, like myself, who were programmed to be heterosexual and couldn't be otherwise.

However, it is obvious that certain traumas can block heterosexual orientation and lead to homosexual orientation. Perhaps some predisposition must exist in the victim, but perhaps not. Certainly a childhood of brutalization and/or molestation by a parent of the opposite sex could predispose someone to homosexuality. Another thing that might do it would be a same-sex parent who compulsively steals attention from the child.

I think that the causes are multiple and that the predispostion forms a statistical bell curve.

11 posted on 05/12/2009 6:56:51 AM PDT by Savage Beast (The Left is decadence. Hubris and denial lead to tragedy. Marxism is a Fools' Paradise.)
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"I think that the causes are multiple and that the predispostion forms a statistical bell curve".

I tend to agree with you. Some percentage of gay men (10-15%?) are simply born that way. Others are created from a variety of psychosocial and biological factors.

I wonder if there are differences between male and female homosexuals. I have known several lesbians, all of whom were molested early in puberty. One was a childhood friend who tried to be heterosexual, but it just did not work for her. None of the lesbians I have known believed that they were born that way.

17 posted on 05/12/2009 7:08:17 AM PDT by neocon1984
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To: Savage Beast
I think there is a "gay gene" (or genes). I have known too many homosexual men and women who are convinced that they were programmed from birth to be homosexual and could never be otherwise.

There wouldn't necessarily have to be a gay gene for this to be true. It could have to do with something that happens during development in the womb, perhaps some sort of hormonal exposure. The fact that the probability a given male is gay is correlated with the number of older brothers indicates that something that happens with the mother's body may play a role.

28 posted on 05/12/2009 7:31:04 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: Savage Beast

If there is a gay gene in nature, we should see gay dogs, gay cats, gay lions, gay deers. Been around animals a bit, never saw a male dog hump a male dog. Nor male ape hump a male ape. So what is the story with man???


34 posted on 05/12/2009 7:46:53 AM PDT by Fee (Peace, prosperity, jobs and common sense)
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To: Savage Beast
I think there is a "gay gene" (or genes). I have known too many homosexual men and women who are convinced that they were programmed from birth to be homosexual and could never be otherwise

Or at least programmed from their earliest memory. If the cause of their homosexuality is an abusive, distant or absent father, an overbearing mother, or child abuse, the cause could be misconstrued as genetic.

37 posted on 05/12/2009 7:50:37 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me knowr)
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If a “gay gene” exists, would not a gay person’s natural state to be void of the desire to procreate? If an individual’s natural state makes it impossible to procreate, then why is the gay community so desirous of changing society to allow for gay “parenting” and gay “marriage?” Both of these desired societal changes are in direct conflict with the natural state presented by a “gay gene.”

If one’s nature causes the desire to nuture, then how is it possible for the same nature to make it impossoble to fullfill that desire?


45 posted on 05/12/2009 8:17:13 AM PDT by CSM (Smokers, the most patriotic of Americans!)
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To: Savage Beast
I have known too many homosexual men and women who are convinced...
"What's he that was not born of woman?"

Macbeth. Act V, scene VII...


78 posted on 05/12/2009 3:47:21 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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“I think there is a “gay gene” (or genes).

You have bought in to a lie. In that case, is there a pedophilic gene? Is there a “beasteality gene?”
Let’s take it up a notch. If this is true, then do the previously mentioned genetic traits legitimize there behavior? Many studies prove alcoholics actually do have a genetic disposition to the affects of alcohol. (None for homosexuality) Should society encourage self destructuve alcohol abuse if one has this genetic trait? Of course not!


86 posted on 05/12/2009 9:47:58 PM PDT by cornfedcowboy
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