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Soldier charged in deaths of 5 U.S. troops (Perp Identified)
CNN ^ | May 12, 2009

Posted on 05/12/2009 7:00:22 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia

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To: boxerblues

Families are the unsung heroes. Thank you for continuing to help take care of those “boys.”


61 posted on 05/12/2009 8:07:06 AM PDT by twigs
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To: rahbert

My brother says Camp Victory is not what you think it is, it is more like a small fortified city, TacoBell, Pizza Hut, BK, Seattle’s Best Coffee shop, etc, swimming pool, fishing hole, a PX that is better than SuperWalmart. It is where the celebrities go when they visit. Most of the people there are support troops that never leave the compound.


62 posted on 05/12/2009 8:11:17 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: panthermom

I meant Camp Liberty. Camp Victory is about the same.


63 posted on 05/12/2009 8:12:17 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: ohioWfan
It has already happened: TIME has already done an on-line piece on how the real story is that this does not happen more often, given that the Army is full of gang members and thugs.
And another thing: AP using this story to slander Viet vets yet again, reporting that “fragging” was “not uncommon” in Vietnam. Well, depends what you mean by “not uncommon.” I spent a whole year there (1966) and never even heard of one such incident, in fact never even heard the term “fragging” until a few years later, when I was back in The World and out of Army. In my experience it sure WAS uncommon.
64 posted on 05/12/2009 8:16:06 AM PDT by Godwin1
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To: panthermom
Camp Liberty last year..... (this is a shopping mall)

This particular spot was an open field in 2003-4.

65 posted on 05/12/2009 8:21:54 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: Godwin1
The leftist military haters in the media and in the political world haven't changed. They are trying to do the same thing to our military heroes now that they did to our military heroes in Viet Nam.

I hate them. I really do.

66 posted on 05/12/2009 8:24:16 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: rahbert

I read on Marinetimes.com that he had had his service weapon taken away, and had an escort taking him to and from this facility, that he was able to get control of the escort’s weapon and returned to the facility.


67 posted on 05/12/2009 8:27:52 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: panthermom

sounds a little like Long Binh.


68 posted on 05/12/2009 8:29:06 AM PDT by rahbert
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To: roaddog727

“As a Combat Engineer myself, I hang my head in shame.”

No need. I was USAF, but I’ve worked with Combat Engineers for a few months in Afghanistan. They busted their butts and did a great job. My sympathy and prayers for the families.


69 posted on 05/12/2009 8:37:56 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Everything for Unions, Nothing for Defense!)
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To: NEMDF

A bit more for the mix

Russell, 44, is from Sherman, Texas and is on his third deployment to Iraq...


70 posted on 05/12/2009 8:38:33 AM PDT by ASOC (Who IS that fat lady, and why is she singing?????)
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To: boxerblues
of course, that is true of some, especially the citizen-soldiers (reservists) but not necessarily all.

Was talking to a USMC buck sergeant during Christmas time who had served overseas often. He was saying he and his unit were anxious to get back over there to finish the job. He was not the gung-ho or fanatic type, just a calm professional looking to the future and wanting to be a part of it. I was impressed.

71 posted on 05/12/2009 9:04:06 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: roaddog727
As a Combat Engineer myself, I hang my head in shame.

No need for you to do that. We respect you as much as we always have.

This was an anomaly...a very tragic anomaly.

Someone on here yesterday was spouting off about how much stress the troops are under and subtly blaming the US and the war.

That's not true...the majority of the combat troops are enthusiastic about what they do.

As I've been seeing in the news, ther seems to be an uptick in these sorts of incidents back home lately. Perhaps some Americans in Iraq are vulnerable to this as well.

72 posted on 05/12/2009 9:07:16 AM PDT by Allegra ( Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.)
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To: elpadre

I have 2 brothers, one was a first responder on both WTC bombings and the other re-joined the military after 9/11. The one in the military was one of the first to go to Afghanistan, did his time and went back for 2 more yrs. as a contractor in Iraq, home for good as of last month. Of the two my brother who was a 1st responder, has terrible PTSD but unfortunately is in denial.


73 posted on 05/12/2009 9:16:41 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: Gay State Conservative

Back off the Java Gay State.

I asked a simple question.


74 posted on 05/12/2009 9:17:55 AM PDT by Global2010 (Catholics Come HomeAddress:http://www.catholicscomehome.org/about-us.phtml)
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To: elpadre
I don't think most of the soldiers have a problem being deployed so much as the strain on the families.

I’ ve had the revolving door going since the beginning, I'm good with what they do for a living, but you have to admit that it is rough on families and sometime crap like this happens.

I'll wait for more facts before passing judgment on the Sgt who is being held responsible.

75 posted on 05/12/2009 9:18:23 AM PDT by boxerblues
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To: Allegra; Mr Rogers

Kind thanks.

Today is not a good day.


76 posted on 05/12/2009 9:19:16 AM PDT by roaddog727 (Built Ford tough not Obama weak.)
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To: Global2010
Back off the Java Gay State.I asked a simple question.

OK...OK.I hear ya.Having spent years working in the medical field,both in the military and the civilian world, perhaps I can't expect laymen to have the same knowledge of that field as do I (not that I'm any brain surgeon or the former CO of Walter Reed).

A stress clinic is a psychiatric clinic.They are found in all US combat theaters.

77 posted on 05/12/2009 9:28:23 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Christian+Veteran=Terrorist)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Thank You.


78 posted on 05/12/2009 9:36:47 AM PDT by Global2010 (Catholics Come HomeAddress:http://www.catholicscomehome.org/about-us.phtml)
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To: Global2010
Thank You.

De nada.

79 posted on 05/12/2009 9:43:53 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Christian+Veteran=Terrorist)
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To: boxerblues

No one has said whether he requested the tours or he was stop lossed, but so far his three tours are being used to trash the war in general.


80 posted on 05/12/2009 9:50:51 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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