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Father: Army 'Broke' Soldier Accused of Killing 5
news max ^ | Wednesday, May 13, 2009 4:10 AM

Posted on 05/13/2009 7:34:09 AM PDT by meandog

SHERMAN, Texas -- The father of a U.S. soldier accused of killing five fellow troops in Iraq said his son "forfeited his life" but the military bears some responsibility for the rampage.

Wilburn Russell said Tuesday that 44-year-old Army Sgt. John M. Russell wasn't typically a violent person, but counselors "broke" him before gunfire erupted in a military stress center Monday in Baghdad.

"John has forfeited his life. Apparently, he said (to his wife), 'My life is over. To hell with it. I'm going to get even with 'em,'" said the elder Russell, 73.

His father said the younger Russell, an electronics technician, was at the stress center to transfer out of active duty. He said his son was undergoing stressful mental tests that he didn't understand were merely tests, "so they broke him."

"I hate what that boy did," said the elder Russell, speaking in front of the two-story house his son was buying with his German wife in a new subdivision. "We're sorry for the families, too. It shouldn't have happened."

Excerpts of his military record, obtained by The Associated Press, show Sgt. Russell previously did two one-year tours of duty in Iraq, one starting in April 2003 and another in November 2005. The stress of repeat and extended tours is considered a main contributor to mental health problems among troops serving in Iraq and Afghanistan.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: fragging; johnrussell; murder; murderer; sgtrussell; soldier
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Hmmm...this soldier had been in the Army for 16 years in a very technical MOS (Signal Corps), yet only an E-5. He had been issued a restraining order from ex-wife, had finanical problems, military discipline problems and, yet, his old man still blames the Army for his failures...
1 posted on 05/13/2009 7:34:10 AM PDT by meandog
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To: meandog

Is there a pic yet?


2 posted on 05/13/2009 7:35:27 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: meandog

An electronics technician? Not exactly a deadly profession.


3 posted on 05/13/2009 7:35:29 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: knarf

There is a pic of the dad on one of the threads.


4 posted on 05/13/2009 7:36:16 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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Hmmm...this soldier had been in the Army for 16 years in a very technical MOS (Signal Corps), yet only an E-5.


Its not usual for enlisted to retire as an E-5 or E-6.


5 posted on 05/13/2009 7:36:32 AM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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Oops—I should have said:

Its not UNUSUAL for enlisted to retire as an E-5 or E-6.


6 posted on 05/13/2009 7:37:21 AM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: AppyPappy

I meant of the murderer


7 posted on 05/13/2009 7:37:23 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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An electronics technician? Not exactly a deadly profession.

Well, not directly anyway. We have some pretty nasty toys these days.

8 posted on 05/13/2009 7:38:21 AM PDT by ko_kyi
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To: meandog

‘He comes home a couple times a year.’ I HATE bad English.


9 posted on 05/13/2009 7:38:26 AM PDT by bboop (obama, little o, not a Real God)
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To: knarf
Is there a pic yet?


10 posted on 05/13/2009 7:38:50 AM PDT by meandog (If you don't like pitbulls, don't get one!)
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To: meandog

The enemy has it better, one guesses.


11 posted on 05/13/2009 7:41:32 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: rbg81
Its not UNUSUAL for enlisted to retire as an E-5 or E-6.

We're not talking 11 Bravos here...It is very unusual for someone in a technical MOS!

12 posted on 05/13/2009 7:41:33 AM PDT by meandog (If you don't like pitbulls, don't get one!)
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Blame the Army...yah,that's the ticket,Daddy.Don't blame you son.Don't even blame the 9th Century knuckledraggers that we're fighting in Iraq (which,IMO,might be a reasonable thing to do).Blame the Army.

Sounds to me like Daddy might even be more deserving of a Court Martial than is his son.

13 posted on 05/13/2009 7:41:35 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Christian+Veteran=Terrorist)
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Hmmm...this soldier had been in the Army for 16 years in a very technical MOS (Signal Corps), yet only an E-5. He had been issued a restraining order from ex-wife, had finanical problems, military discipline problems and, yet, his old man still blames the Army for his failures.

Exactly. What was the worst stress he faced - a cold solder joint?

14 posted on 05/13/2009 7:42:30 AM PDT by Terabitten (Vets wrote a blank check, payable to the Constitution, for an amount up to and including their life.)
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...Russell, an electronics technician, was at the stress center to transfer out of active duty. He said his son was undergoing stressful mental tests that he didn't understand were merely tests,...Sgt. Russell previously did two one-year tours of duty in Iraq, one starting in April 2003 and another in November 2005...

I don't know. How many patrols does a electronics technician go on?

15 posted on 05/13/2009 7:43:06 AM PDT by McGruff (Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency - Barack Obama)
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Thanks .. I needed that.

I herewith offer my apologies for a racist statement I made the first day this event was published.

I was wrong and my remark was racist.

16 posted on 05/13/2009 7:43:28 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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Its not UNUSUAL for enlisted to retire as an E-5 or E-6

I've never heard of anyone outside the NG retiring as less than a E6. Just my personal experience, your mileage may vary.

17 posted on 05/13/2009 7:43:47 AM PDT by Terabitten (Vets wrote a blank check, payable to the Constitution, for an amount up to and including their life.)
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Good Lord,the father correctly observes the military has some fault and that bothers you?

If the 44 year old had all the problems then the Army ought to have kept him away from weapons at least.

The dad isn't whining about spare my boy his life or approving his son's actions.

18 posted on 05/13/2009 7:43:49 AM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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Yep, the creep murders five people and the blame is being laid on the military by Dad. We sure wouldn’t want sonny boy to take responsibility for his own actions. I hope he fries.


19 posted on 05/13/2009 7:44:08 AM PDT by Old Grumpy
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In war - many of the wounded have suffered wounds with no visible evidence or external bleeding.

All the bleeding is internal - all the damage is to the mind or spirit.

These warriors get no Purple Hearts - all they earn is decades of nightmares reliving the horrors they have known and the losses they have suffered.

This poor bastard could be a worse case example.
Most don’t act out against their brothers, but suffer quietly and pose no danger to others.


20 posted on 05/13/2009 7:45:30 AM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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