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Posted on 05/18/2009 11:00:10 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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1000 holigams/hollow-leg
“....would match the stringency of the California program...”
That means the added cost of $1,500 - $3,000 per vehicle. What a brilliant idea. Let’s take the California model and make it federal law. This it total and complete lunacy.
I know - what an idiotic use of the word “offer” in the headline. “Offer” implies something is made available that can be accepted, but this latest edict is a MANDATE!
NYT strikes again.
“We will tell you what mileage your vehicle will get, peon. You aren’t smart enough to decide for yourself what makes sense for you!” < /nanny state>
Most of the volatile organic compound that produces photochemical smog in the Central Valley is derived from vegetation augmented by irrigation. Nothing any human can do will change that other than paving the whole state or deciding to import all our food.
...more standards to sink the economy
(stay low my friends)
“U.S. to Offer New Mileage and Emission Standards”
Oh, it’s *mandatory*? I guess Obama uses the term “offer” in a similar fashion as Vito Corleone.
What I want to know is.....
.....What young engineer will graduate from college and want to work for a company that is run by the UAW?
Who will design these new vehicles for the UAW if they can't hire engineers?
Will the UAW be able to force themselves to work and make them?
Either the cars get smaller and lighter.....
.....or they make "plug in hybrids" and cheat by having the coal dependent power grid become the tailpipe for about 1/3 of the miles.
Or both....why stop at 42 MPG. Lets get crazy and go for 50 MPG!
Lets start building those battery powered bikes with a nylon shroud where the person lies down with the head propped up. The only problem is, you have to weigh 100 pounds, be shorter than 5'-6", and can't carry anything more than an Ipod with you. Oh, and it will take you a day to get to work.
These weenies are probably so excited they are giddy.....
.....Yay! We finally got our way. That evil Bush and the nasty Republicans were trying to destroy the plant. Now we have a real girly man in charge!
I hate to sound like the voice of doom--again--but this ain't good. Does this need to pass a legislative vote? If so, it will be interesting to see how the state dems react.
—So people wanting something big and functional will have to go to larger truck chassis, making even larger SUVs.—
Uncle Sam will just close the loophole to include SUVs and pickups. The old-fashioned, truck-based SUV collapsed in popularity since gas hit over $4.00 last year. To this day the used car lots are littered with Grand Cherokees, Explorers and Blazers, many in very good shape. And for those who say “people had to buy SUVs because CAFE made station-wagons impractical”, well, I guess Subaru, Volvo and Mercedes didn’t get that memo.
I doubt the Detroit 3 have hired anyone (or virtually so) in a long time, they've been shrinking for so long. Still, at some point they are going to have to, because they are already a mere shadow of themselves.
There are a ton of experienced car people now laid off (I'm on an 8-week layoff myself, due to the Chrysler collapse), so I think they will get people hungry for work in the short term. Long term, who knows? This Obama proposal will crash and burn, however. It has two things going against it: free market preferences and the laws of physics. He can fight the first, the second is not so easily dismissed...
In the 70s, I had a neighbor who spent his weekends looking around farms because a car manufacturer had developed an engine that allowed a car to deliver 25,000 mpg.
Yes, 25,000 MPG!
The big oil companies had hidden all the prototypes and destroyed the plans.
So it is possible to do this with ease. I don’t know why y’all are skeptics.
You need to teach your dogs to pull you while you wear roller skates. Make them FORD roller skates, and you’ll help the average mileage, give your dogs exercise and travel cheap.
You make things sound so hard! You’re welcome for the solution.
What thie edict is amounts to suspending and/or ignoring the laws of physics.
Not only that, but US consumers will not buy 5 seat cars built like a mini cooper powered by a 50 hp motor as their family car. That would be the “average” car in a fleet designed around these standards with 7 years of R&D thrown at it during an economic depression.
There is a new flock of CEOs, CFOs, etc running US industry now. If they can’t make money for their company and their selves, they shut the operation down through selloff, bankruptcy, or just shutting down the operation.
In the past the auto industry in this country was the biggest fish in the sea, and just shook off these irrational demands. These days, the US auto industry is in its death throes, and this demand may just knock the last bit of life out of it.
Does anyone really think Ford and whoever else is still standing will invest the needed money and resources in what in all likelyhood will never result in a sucessful product?
Look what Fiat did when the US market became too expensive to cater to, they folded up shop and went home.
LOL I need to change breeds!
Only a lib would have the government decide what kind of vehicle you can drive, what kind of doctor you can use, how much money you can make, what you can say publically and still call it “The Land of the Free”....
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