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Voices: Tamil diaspora in shock
BBC World News ^ | 19 May 2009 | Multi

Posted on 05/19/2009 11:04:38 AM PDT by walford

As Sri Lanka declares an end to its 26-year civil war, Tamils outside Sri Lanka describe their shock and disbelief at news of the military demise of the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) and the death of its leader, Vellupillai Prabhakaran.

VASUKI MURUHATHAS, LAWYER, LONDON

...There are LTTE supporters all over the place and all over the world. Unless we have a solution for the Tamil people, this problem will continue. We need to recognise their lands. This is an unnecessary loss in our beautiful country.

The government should immediately give us a solution and show us regard, look after Tamils. We want innocent Tamil people to be saved immediately...

(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs
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I don't claim to know the particulars of this long-standing conflict -- and objective info is hard to come by -- but I have little sympathy for wholesale violence that puts civilians at risk as a legitimate form of resistance. Let us remember that the Tamils are among the originators of suicide bombings.

My sympathy for the Chechens similarly evaporated when they started targeting civilian areas as well.

I know that the United States was founded via a violent uprising, but that was an extremely rare exception. History has repeatedly shown that regimes that are established by violence tend to be worse than the ones overthrown.

The revolutionary models exemplified by the civil -- and largely peaceful -- uprisings against Marcos in the Philippines and against the Soviet regime in Russia are better examples to emulate. But the trick is, in order for such peaceful civilian uprisings to work, the military has to remain in its barracks.

That is why they worked in the USSR and the Philippines, but failed in Communist China. The PLA was and is too invested in keeping the one-party state in power to suffer any move toward limited representative government.

That being said, Colombo needs to take this as an opportunity to foster a loyal, non-violent opposition amongst the Tamils rather than a chance to smother them once and for all. That will only create an environment for a new violent opposition.

Read those statements by the Tamils in that article to get a sense that ordinary citizens amongst them feel despair that violence has been taken away from them as an option for redressing their grievances. The Sinhalese government must earn the Tamils' trust in tangible ways. It has to be made clear to the Tamils that they stand a much better chance of being treated fairly via non-violent means.

1 posted on 05/19/2009 11:04:39 AM PDT by walford
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To: walford

I’m shocked. Shocked I tell you.

I do appreciate your analysis, and have to say I don’t know many of the details either. More familiar with the Detroit Tigers.


2 posted on 05/19/2009 11:07:13 AM PDT by BlueStateBlues (Blue State business, Red State heart. . . . .Palin 2012----can't come soon enough!)
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To: walford
The first lie is that it was a "civil war". It was no such thing. The Tigers were Communist revolutionaries and were supported by the Chinese.

I watched the BBC report on this as their lead story this morning and was disgusted with their sympathy for the "rebels".

3 posted on 05/19/2009 11:09:08 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: BlueStateBlues

Detroit and Sri Lanka have a lot in common.


4 posted on 05/19/2009 11:10:21 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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The actions of the current Sri Lanka administration should be considered the classic example of how you deal with terrorist organizations. You slaughter them to the last man and you display the corpses of their leaders on national TV.
5 posted on 05/19/2009 11:10:39 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Democrats spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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WSJ today featured a story on the death of the Tamil leader. He was pictured in his office with a large ‘Che” poster on the wall.


6 posted on 05/19/2009 11:12:51 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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>know that the United States was founded via a violent uprising, but that was an extremely rare exception...

That stood up to the most advanced military in the world in open battle and did not even consider involving attacks on civilians.

While the militia and the Continental Army did get their butts kicked any number of times, they did prevail without a terrorist mindset.

7 posted on 05/19/2009 11:12:59 AM PDT by bill1952 (Power is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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Tough titty to the Tamil Tigers.

Maybe their carefully-choreographed protesters can get off Westminster Bridge now.


8 posted on 05/19/2009 11:14:33 AM PDT by agere_contra
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they did prevail without a terrorist mindset.

That's historically inaccurate.

There were acts of terror perpetrated by both sides during the American Revolution.

9 posted on 05/19/2009 11:14:59 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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“While the militia and the Continental Army did get their butts kicked any number of times, they did prevail without a terrorist mindset.”

Which is why this country is so uniquely blessed by God.


10 posted on 05/19/2009 11:15:38 AM PDT by Niuhuru
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In his various books on race and culture, Thomas Sowell has written a lot about Sri Lanka. According to him, at independence the Tamils were sort like the Chinese of Malaysia, better educated and seemingly harder-working than the majority. Soon after independence, just as the Tamils had feared, the majority Sinhalese began to prey on them. Sinhala was made the official language for dealing with the government, despite the ready availability of English as a common language for both groups. Other discriminatory measures followed. This is a common thing that happens to economically successful minorities in poor countries, especially democratic ones.

However, from what I understand, the LTTE engaged in a progressively more atrocious war, and their territory in the north appears to of had a just a touch of the Khmer Rouge about it in terms of cult of personality and iron-fisted rule. So after all this time, it is hard to have much sympathy for them. Had cynical ambitious politicians in the 1950s not used in-your-face ethnic politics to further their careers, it never would've happened, but that was long ago and a lot of barbarism has passed under the bridge since then. I am no expert, but it is hard to root for any of them.

11 posted on 05/19/2009 11:16:20 AM PDT by untenured
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"I watched the BBC report on this as their lead story this morning and was disgusted with their sympathy for the "rebels"."

BBC on NPR has been cheerleading these 'rebels' for as long as I can remember. I guess they'll have to move on to the Chechan Islamists or somesuch...

12 posted on 05/19/2009 11:16:39 AM PDT by eureka! (Elections have consequences, boy howdy. *sigh*)
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"Detroit and Sri Lanka have a lot in common."

There you go. The emigrated Tamils could go buy up much of Detroit and effectively put their "country" there.

13 posted on 05/19/2009 11:16:52 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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The Tamil cause is genuine; only that the LTTE hijacked it.

Sri Lanka only needed to remove the selectively discriminative clauses from its Constitution that lead to the Civil War, in the first place.

The Tamil Sri Lankans were favored over the Sinhala majority, during British rule of what was then Ceylon. When Independence was achieved, Sri Lanka introduced clauses that favored the Sinhala majority over the Tamils, who had benefitted from British rule, as a way of revenge. This went into a tit-for-tat deathmatch, that ultimately lead to the LTTE’s formation, after bloody riots against Tamils in the early 1980s.


14 posted on 05/19/2009 11:18:32 AM PDT by MyTwoCopperCoins (I don't have a license to kill; I have a learner's permit.)
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To: AlaskaErik

Vlad the Impaler had it correct then?


15 posted on 05/19/2009 11:19:04 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: untenured
Exactly. See my post above.

Prabhakaran was a double-edged sword for the LTTE, that ultimately proved fatal for it.

He developed it into one of the most sophisticated and deadly rebel forces on the planet, converted it into a terrorist movement, and then destroyed it by not seizing upon mny very, very good opportunities for reconciliation.

16 posted on 05/19/2009 11:22:14 AM PDT by MyTwoCopperCoins (I don't have a license to kill; I have a learner's permit.)
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The Tigers were garden variety Communists and any minor grievances the Tamils had were magnified and turned into The Cause. The Tigers frequently butchered other Tamils who wouldn’t support them and they always located in the middle of villages where innocents were sure to die in any conflict with the government.


17 posted on 05/19/2009 11:23:54 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: BlueStateBlues
More familiar with the Detroit Tigers.

The Tamil Tigers are a minor league hockey team.

18 posted on 05/19/2009 11:27:46 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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That stood up to the most advanced military in the world in open battle

The Prussians were the most advanced military in the world at the time of the Revolution.

Your pardon, but please understand that this "colonists vs the Mighty British army" meme is a creation myth. At the time of the revolution the British army had its competent, well-armed soldiers elsewhere. Sir John Moore didn't begin his revolutionary training techniques for British Light Infantry until 1803.

The difference (to American eyes) can be seen in the events of 1812: there were many British soldiers in Canada who were veterans of the Spanish Peninsular War. Wellington bitterly regretted them being on the other side of the world when he had to fight at Waterloo three years later!

19 posted on 05/19/2009 11:28:50 AM PDT by agere_contra
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I read the intel on the Tamil Tigers for over a decade. I’m glad that they were wiped out and even gladder that it appears to have achieved peace the old fashioned way, thru victory.


20 posted on 05/19/2009 11:33:41 AM PDT by SampleMan (Socialism enslaves you & kills your soul.)
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