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Russian History 2.0: Kremlin Wants to 'Correct' the Record (Illegal to Compare Soviets to Nazis)
Christian Science Monitor ^ | 5/21/09

Posted on 05/21/2009 2:43:47 PM PDT by nickcarraway

A proposed law could make comparing Soviet rule with that of the Nazis a crime. Intellectuals fear a manipulation of Russia’s past.

A bitter joke from the Soviet-era has it that Russia is the world's only country with an unpredictable past.

That jibe has come winging back in recent days, after the Kremlin announced the creation of a special 28-member panel tasked with examining and combating examples of "historical revisionism" that harm Russia's image.

The committee, which has no legal power, is chaired by the head of President Dmitry Medvedev's administration, Sergei Naryshkin, and includes a sprinkling of historians but also lawmakers, Kremlin officials, the armed forces' chief of staff, and members of the FSB security service.

But a companion law, drafted by the pro-Kremlin United Russia party and soon due to be introduced into the State Duma, will stipulate fines and prison sentences of up to five years for anyone found guilty of "denying the decisions of the Nuremberg Tribunal."

This is a reaction to a growing body of historiography in former Soviet and Eastern European countries that depicts the long years of Soviet domination as similar in nature to the Nazi occupation, and suggests that for these nations, liberation arrived only when the USSR collapsed. Even more irritating for the Russians are perceived attempts in some places, like Ukraine and Latvia, to "rehabilitate" citizens who wore German uniforms during World War II to fight against the oncoming Red Army.

"It is high time to make a study of what is going on here, and to decide what kind of documents we need to dig up and publish to counter these new interpretations," says Natalya Narochnitskaya,

(Excerpt) Read more at csmonitor.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; Russia
KEYWORDS: coldwar2; communism; deathcabforputie; fsb; history; kremlin; putinism; reds; russia; soviet; sovietunion; ussr2

1 posted on 05/21/2009 2:43:47 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
Russians manipulating the past? Where would they get such a crazy idea?


2 posted on 05/21/2009 2:45:19 PM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: nickcarraway

Of course they weren’t Nazi’s.

They were much, much worse.


3 posted on 05/21/2009 2:47:25 PM PDT by OpusatFR (Those embryos are little humans in progress. Using them for profit is slavery.)
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To: nickcarraway

Hail to the USSR the best- Hack, cough, spit, Puke, Hurl, etc etc Help me my finger hurt even typing this garbage. Let us tell the truth about them!!


4 posted on 05/21/2009 2:47:50 PM PDT by handy old one (It is unbecoming for young men to utter maxims. Aristotlme)
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To: nickcarraway

I wish we’d go after the kommissars, Gulag guards and commanders, and members of the Secret police as passionately as we have Nazi war criminals. Both are equally guilty in my eyes.


5 posted on 05/21/2009 2:54:57 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople
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To: nickcarraway

Well then forget the past. I compare Putin to the Nazis.


6 posted on 05/21/2009 2:55:34 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: nickcarraway

Makes sense. The Soviets killed way more people.


7 posted on 05/21/2009 2:58:29 PM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: OpusatFR

As much as communism was bad, you may never, never compare it to the nazism.
Nazism is by far worsest thing happened to mankind.

Communism you can survine, Nazism- NOT


8 posted on 05/21/2009 3:51:25 PM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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Polish General Wladyslaw Anders once told General Patton during WW II, “With the Germans, we lose our lives. With the Russians, we lose our souls.”


9 posted on 05/21/2009 3:53:25 PM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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Re: Russian History 2.0: Kremlin Wants to 'Correct' the Record

Don't laugh... Photobucket too hard, Nick

Our time... Photobucket is just around the corner!

10 posted on 05/21/2009 4:24:40 PM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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Bush 1 and Clinton were moron, along with the pernicious plague of fools known as “realists”. The failure to have trials for communists after the fall of the Soviet Union as a prerequisit for US aid was the worst policy decision by presidents this side of Carter’s decision not ot back the shaw and Eisenhower’s double lunacy of supporting the Arabs in 1956 and pushing “Atoms for Peace”.


11 posted on 05/21/2009 4:38:00 PM PDT by rmlew ( The SAVE and GIVE acts are institutioning Corvee. Where's the outtrage!)
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Don’t forget Eisenhower refusing to sell weapons or support Batista.


12 posted on 05/21/2009 4:40:32 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...

I’m sure it’ll be classified as hate speech soon.

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13 posted on 05/21/2009 4:44:43 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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Tell that to the 20,000,000 Kulaks..or the 80,000,000 other victims of the RED CENTURY...


14 posted on 05/21/2009 4:55:29 PM PDT by Nat Turner (Proud two term solider in the 2nd Infantry Div 84-85; 91-92)
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To: kronos77
Long before WWII Will Rodgers visited the USSR, and he wrote about seeing the trainloads of people headed to Siberia "and nobody had a ticket back except the engineer". F.A. Hayek wrote the classic The Road to Serfdom during WWII, before the liberation of any of the death camps. But he predicted them, in general terms - simply by analogy to the Soviet Union. Because the burden of Serfdom is that from the POV of a liberal - he wrote to a British audience, and did not know that in America in the 1920s the meaning of "liberal" had been inverted - the Nazis and the Communists differed only in nuance. Basically there wasn't a dime's worth of difference between the two.

Of course Hayek knew that the Nazis and the Communists were in a ferocious struggle even as he wrote - but reading his take on the relationship between the two socialisms, I could not but think of a line in a movie, wherein one counselor to the sultan said to another about a scuffle between two princes, "They fight as only half brothers can."


15 posted on 05/21/2009 5:17:10 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The conceit of journalistic objectivity is profoundly subversive of democratic principle.)
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So Russia is going to say that Communism is a wonderful thing, that Stalin and Brezhnev were humanitarian leaders? Seems like the USSR is coming back with a vengeance.


16 posted on 05/21/2009 5:44:56 PM PDT by Thunder90
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It’s closer to the other way around. The Nazis only (only!) murdered about 11 million people, drawing from most of Europe. The Soviets murdered about ten times that many soviet citizens alone, not counting their massacres elsewhere. Of the two, the Nazis were actually the less bloodthirsty. They were also less oppressive to the people they didn’t murder.

It takes some doing to make the Nazis look civilized, but the Soviets managed it.


17 posted on 05/21/2009 6:36:24 PM PDT by Keb
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18 posted on 05/22/2009 1:52:29 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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