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1 posted on 05/28/2009 2:48:58 AM PDT by Scanian
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Looks like another version of the United States of American Idle. People are so bent on style(cool, unattached) and completely ignore their own ambitions. Eh, what do I know? I don’t understand this country anymore.


2 posted on 05/28/2009 2:56:13 AM PDT by FreeSouthernAmerican (All we ask is to be let alone----Jefferson Davis)
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In short, many today acknowledge that there is a crisis of the disappearing educated male.

This assumes that the University is still a place of education. Allan Bloom destroyed that myth 20 years ago. The American mind is closed.

3 posted on 05/28/2009 3:13:46 AM PDT by ALPAPilot
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Some of it may be laid at social expectations. For years we’ve had to boost the expectations of women - and it worked. Now what do we have?
Look at our TV sitcoms and commercials. All men are bumbling idiots, all women are bright and articulate. Even minority men aren’t exempt - check out the George Lopez show. Shows aimed at kids aren’t much better, “iCarley” is about a very bright, mature young girl being raised by her big brother - the very epitome of the bumbling fool. There’s one bright spot, the father on “Hannah Montana” (Billy Ray Cyrus) - his character is actually intelligent. The brother however, is an idiot.


5 posted on 05/28/2009 3:25:23 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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This problem is huge and won’t go away anytime soon.

Young men are simply failing. They are told they are useless, unneeded, violent, dangerous and stupid. They are fed a curriculum of feminism where men are deliberately undervalued, are left unchallenged, etc.

What a disaster in the making. And women will suffer from this too because while they go on to college and start high powered careers with a good salary (we hope!), they will find it increasingly difficult to find worthwhile, compatible husbands. Thank you so much modern liberal society for messing our kids up!


6 posted on 05/28/2009 3:25:30 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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Quote from the article:

“As Christina Hoff Sommers said in her book, The War Against Boys: How Misguided Feminism is Harming our Young Men, the fact that “women are significantly more literate, significantly more educated than their male counterparts” is likely to create a “lot of social problems;” the lack of well-educated men does not “bode well” for anyone.”

I recommend Sommers book. She said nothing I had not read or heard elsewhere, but it was interesting to har it from a feminist who realize faminism caused the problem!


7 posted on 05/28/2009 3:30:46 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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Blacks threw away their men and fathers - and look how well they’re doing... /s


10 posted on 05/28/2009 3:43:15 AM PDT by GOPJ (To a community organizer, every citizen looks like a victim entitled to someone else's money-Philbin)
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1) Tell that to Larry Summers, you twits.

2) The problem here, too, is that to make up for the European-ancestried men (natural-born US citizens) who are being held back, the feminists and others are choosing to import high-achieving males from Third World countries. While this allows them to indulge in multicultural rainbow unicorn fantasies, what actually happens is that a lot of the men from these countries hold women in a lot lower esteem than American men, in their *private* lives. And then they compete with the US citizens for the few prestigious, well-paying jobs which are left open to men, further depressing the ranks of the "marriageable" men (women tend to marry UP socioeconomically, unless they want a metrosexual lapdog, or a boy toy).

And another related unsustainable trend is the practice of the upwardly mobile women to put off having families until late in life: the number of children drops, which does not augur well for demographics, and the children are shunted off to "day care" (no more extended families in today's modern, mobile, sophisticated world). With the lack of love, the children become resentful and don't know how to give or receive love themselves other than...well, hooking up.

These things are seemingly great for the yuppie vermin young adults now, but they are throwing the society and culture under the bus. Nothing in their lives, nor in the values now missing from their childrens' lives, will build, nor nurture, nor sustain a great society such as the one we've built: it will be fragmented into the hyperachievers and the poor.

These are the seeds of a Third World Country.

NO cheers, unfortunately.

11 posted on 05/28/2009 3:46:43 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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Speaking as a male with a BA in English and an MBA let me ask a fundamental question. What constitutes education? Is a man who can read (and comprehend) a service manual not literate? Is man who can tear down a diesel engine and make it run better after he puts it back together not educated?

The issue isn't the education of the male but rather the declining value of the university product and the perfectly reasonable response to that; the smart man turns away.

12 posted on 05/28/2009 3:47:51 AM PDT by muir_redwoods ( Hey, remember the last head of state who dictated the design of automobiles?)
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The secondary effect of all this is the decline in enrollment in the “traditional” male majors: science and engineering. Even 30 years ago when I was an undergrad, fully half of our professors in EE were from Taiwan/Hong Kong. The doctorate program was filled with foreign-born students because there weren’t enough domestic students applying. The school tried to recruit me into grad school, but I declined, completing my MS after going to work. Today the problem of filling technical slots has shifted down into the undergrad ranks. My grad work was done at Santa Clara University, and I saw where they are actively recruiting high school students, because of the lack of applicants to the Computer Science undergrad program...

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21 posted on 05/28/2009 4:37:09 AM PDT by hoosier hick ((I'm back to..) Note to RINOs: We need a choice, not an echo. (Barry Goldwater))
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A conference at Penn? This is what they want more of. No thanks.
22 posted on 05/28/2009 4:37:49 AM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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Another stat they don’t add in is that a huge percentage of female college grads (something like 40%, don’t know the exact number) end up being full time mothers/housewives.

I remember an article from a few years ago that had the president of Harvard bemoaning the fact that like half the women who graduated from HARVARD didn’t work full time.


23 posted on 05/28/2009 5:00:36 AM PDT by Brookhaven (The Era of Reagan is NOW)
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I agree with a lot of what the author has said, but I will add this:

My older generation wanted to be CEOS, the upcoming generation wants to be owners of companies. Lots of reasons for this switch but many younger people have no intention of working for a company that may or will replace them with an H1b employee for one third the price, or will be replaced by out sourcing, or will be subject to periodic layoffs or will be replaced by technology. There is a long list that extends beyond the above written list.

Many are not willing to pay a large sum of money and 5 years of their life for a degree that will result in a 15 year career that becomes difficult after the age of 40.

They will go to college, but they will do so for specific courses and information and may never bother to get a degree.

They will hire those female college graduates and pay them well, but ultimately those college grads will always be employees. Because that is what they were taught.

The upcoming generation’s belief is:

“If you’re an employee, you’re a failure.”


34 posted on 05/28/2009 10:46:50 AM PDT by texmexis best (uency)
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The female predominance is not seen at the most selective colleges, there it is more like 50:50.


36 posted on 05/28/2009 1:57:06 PM PDT by Plutarch
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bttt


38 posted on 05/29/2009 11:01:14 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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