Anti-Prop. 8 forces should wait for 2012 ballot, pollsters say

Sacramento Bee ^ | 5/28/9 | Steve Wiegand

[SmithL]

With the ink barely dry on the California Supreme Court's decision upholding a ban on same-sex marriages, proponents are already preparing new political and legal efforts to overturn the ban.

But at least some pollsters and legal experts think those efforts may be too soon to have a good chance to succeed.

"I think the pro-side would have a significant challenge in 2010," said Mark DiCamillo, director of the Field Poll. "I think it would be less of a challenge in 2012."

DiCamillo's observation was echoed by Mark Baldassare, director of research at the Public Policy Institute of California.

"It would seem that waiting two years would give them (supporters of same-sex marriage) a better potential electorate," Baldassare said.

The two pollsters' comments came in the wake of Tuesday's ruling by the state Supreme Court upholding the validity of Proposition 8, which voters approved last November by a 52.3-47.7 margin.

The measure amended the California Constitution to restrict the institution of marriage to a union between a man and woman.

Following the court's 6-1 ruling, gay marriage supporters vowed to take the issue before voters again next year.

[MAD-AS-HELL]

bad idea. The anti Prop 8 goons need to get on the ballot for 2010 while it’s still fresh on the minds of people...and so it can be defeated.

[mikelets456]

Got tolerance?

[DManA]

I agree. People will be so P.O.d about it coming back up so soon they will smash it out of pique.

[edcoil]

Those “goons” as you so immaturely noted don’t need to have anything on the ballot.

[South40]

Members of the gay mafia crammed San Diego's city hall yesterday and applied for marrriage licenses. They were told NO of course but they staged a sit-in essentially blocking normal people from getting married.

They're not waiting, at least not in SD.

[skeeter]

The normal people need to target the next gay inroad - maybe the mention of alternate lifestyles in any public classroom - and keep these gay activists busy defending as they’ve done to us for the past 50 years.

[rock_lobsta]

Thanks to Carrie Prejean for her courage, and special thanks to Perez Hilton for being such a sissy b!$&# a$$#^*e.

Getting Prop 8 overturned is DOA right now. So much, I would make sure it was on the ballot in 2010.

[Maelstorm]

The pro prop 8 folks should consider another amendment. It should be one to stop the indoctrination of kids in school concerning this issue. We need an amendment that would protect parents. I’m not sure about the wording yet but that is a logical next step and very winnable depending on the language. I think the language should be something as follows:

“The state shall not promote through any dispensation of public funds or policy direct or indirect any form of sexual relationship or related behavior that falls outside the confines of a monogamous heterosexual marital relationship.”

That is my first go of it and I’m sure it could be tightened up. It doesn’t say the state has to encourage marriage but it keeps the state from funding programs or publicly supporting indoctrination and propaganda on behalf of sexual activists regardless of stripe. If is effectively a separation of sex and state of sorts. A simpler amendment would be one to protect parents rights and those educators who wish not to participate in sex education programs that they find contrary to their religious or personal beliefs.
I prefer the first one or some form of it.

A lot of good a constitutional amendment does if the state is undermining it through propaganda in public schools.

[goldstategop]

The gays will have to make a positive argument for same sex marriage - an institution that has never existed in all of human history. Good luck.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[fwdude]

Getting Prop 8 overturned is DOA right now. So much, I would make sure it was on the ballot in 2010.

You know, if I lived in CA I might actually sign the petition to push the homo-agenda to a vote, just to see it crash and burn by more than 55% at the ballot box.

[a real Sheila]

OK, so voters chose to ban gay marriage and the gays want to present it to the voters AGAIN to overturn the vote. IF that happens, do they get to vote again and again every election cycle to ban or reinstate or is it that once the gays get their way, no more voting on this issue?

[a real Sheila]

OK, so voters chose to ban gay marriage and the gays want to present it to the voters AGAIN to overturn the vote. IF that happens, do they get to vote again and again every election cycle to ban or reinstate or is it that once the gays get their way, no more voting on this issue?

[novemberslady]

2012...gotta stall long enough for bambi and his cohorts to stack the supreme court with your friends.
yep, just in case things still don't go your way...