[muawiyah]

Even worse, and not at all imagined by the Obamistas, when rationing cuts off the elderly, the rich and elderly will simply purchase the services of strong young men to KIDNAP and IMPRISON doctors to serve their needs.

This can be done a variety of ways ~ some of them not at all violent, or even something the doctors will resist.

All the doctors will need to do business with their patients this way is for at least one patient to be prepared to substantiate the fact of the kidnapping.

Or, as an alternative, the "audit trails" leading to the discovery of non-plan non-participating physicians (under cover serving the elderly) can be smudged with traditional methods.

Certainly America is not without experts in the field of property and casualty insurance scams!

[wintertime]

and the number of available nurses has been flat for years.
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Nonsense....There are nurses out there by the thousands. People like me. ( I am a registered nurse.) I refuse to do the job.

It isn’t the money. It’s the working conditions.

What did it for me was being “pulled” off my regular unit to staff another unit I may have never seen. Not only did I not know the patients, I was often sent to a specialty that I hadn’t seen for years, and I would arrive at the new unit already a half hour late into the shift. Now that’s a prescription for stress. And...I never knew from one day to the next, if I would be pulled.

Then there was the issue of finding a secure place to park the car and safely get into and out of the hospital.

Gee! Do you think on site day care might lure some nurses back to work? It would have for me!

Finally, after being treated like a used Kleenex for several years. I went back to school and earned a doctorate ( at the age of 32) in another health profession. I earned 3 times the salary and never worked another night shift or weekend again.

[Buckeye McFrog]

The AMA just formally announced their opposition to Obamacare. This is very good news! A defeat for Barry on a high-profile issue will chink his Armor of Invincibility and the dominoes will start tumbling. Obama looks like he is going to try and drive this personally, which will cause him to burn a lot of political capital.

[Texan]

Another "benefit" to rationing healthcare is that the 60+ crowd will die sooner meaning less paid out in Social Security. I'm sure that's part of their thinking.

We're expendable.

[socialismisinsidious]

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[Wiseghy]

This type of rationing is an academic dream anyway. In reality, healthy people can’t get care, simple as that.

Wait times get too high for working or desperate people, who then must pay out of pocket to get care.

Even overseas, the only care readily available is “house calls” by a low tech “doctor” with a bag; exactly like care 100 years ago.