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Police in Iran firing on crowd (1 Dead)
Associated Press

Posted on 06/15/2009 9:30:21 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55

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To: HollyB
The silence from Obama on this is deafening. He and Ahmadinejad are probably having regular phone conversations throughout the day for moral support. Instead of siding with and backing up the pro-reform Iranians, Obama’s probably thinking he doesn't want to burn any bridges with Nutjob in case the crowds start to stand down or are put down, whichever comes first. Obama is either the most wicked leader we've ever seen or the stupidest.
141 posted on 06/15/2009 1:11:06 PM PDT by 444Flyer (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.--Orwell)
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To: SolidWood
And I am all for westernized Iranians in the big cities who want to join the rest of the world.

However, once again I might point out that those that are now taking to the streets are the sons and daughters/ or grandchildren of those that took to the streets, kidnapped and held American citizens and put the current repressive government types in power.

They got what they wanted then, and now it's all changed due to the fact that they have cell phones and designer clothing?

I am just not buying that they are the “freedom loving” folk who have just lately found voice. They may be scared or bored, but IMO they don't know what freedom is or what the cost is, and I ask the simple question:

Are they willing to pay the cost for freedom, to stand up and do what must be done?

I will more than welcome them to the fold if that is the case.

142 posted on 06/15/2009 1:24:16 PM PDT by alarm rider (My tagline is on vacation.)
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To: G8 Diplomat; ichabod1

You said — The Iranians have ALREADY put up with 30 years of mullah repression. They’re tired of it. I really doubt they’ll just back down.

Islam has been around for about 1,400 years and has shown no signs of giving up their war against Judeo-Christian culture and the rest of the world — and their desire in subjugating the entire world to the rule of Sharia law and their Islamo-fascist government.

And since there have been no signs of Islam shrinking and since the demographics show Islam is taking over Europe right now and will be ruling in the U.S. in a generation — I don’t think 30 years is going to make too much difference to Muslims.... LOL...


144 posted on 06/15/2009 1:35:56 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: G8 Diplomat; Ernest_at_the_Beach

You said — Methinks the mullahcracy’s days are numbered.

LOL..., oh you’re really dreaming there. Islam is on the rise, all over the world. They’re not on the decline and their days are certainly not numbered, in the world that we live in.

However, according to the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, when Jesus, the Messiah of Israel returns to this earth — then — their days will be numbered as he wipes out and kills all the Muslims living on this planet, and then sets up His Kingdom on this earth, ruling and reigning over all the nations of the world, from the Throne of David in Jerusalem...


145 posted on 06/15/2009 1:39:44 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: 444Flyer

He and Ahmadinejad are probably having regular phone conversations throughout the day for moral support.

You’re a funny gal, 444. And probably right, too!


146 posted on 06/15/2009 1:44:24 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: Star Traveler

You need to do you homework about Iranian society and affairs. Ask anyone who knows anything about Iran and they will tell you it is NOT a monolithic state. You have the poor, illiterate, Islam-clinging Ahmadinejad supporters in the rural areas, and the modernized, Western culture-loving, non-pious students in the big city. They want social reform and are sick and tired of being told how to dress, think, and act by the mullahs. Huge percentages of them actually have a favorable view of the US. Most of the Muslims invading Europe are Arabs and Turks, not Persians.

Persians are not Arabs and actually have a desire to join civilization. Not all of them are brainwashed “Islam must dominate the world/death to the West” whackjobs. You can’t paint everyone with the same brush.


149 posted on 06/15/2009 1:54:42 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (I'm learning Arabic, Farsi, Urdu, Pashtu, and Russian so someday you won't have to)
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To: Star Traveler

Someone here said — I am not interested in your comments, since you have obviously not the slightest clue on Iran. No need to ping me ever again.

The biggest clue that anyone needs about Iran is that it is infested with Muslims, who are out to subjugate the world under Islam and sharia law.

When the majority of the people decided to get out from under that Islamo-fascist belief of theirs and when the majority decide that killing Jews is not a priority for them, and when they decide that subjugating the world under their Islamic rule is not what they will condone any longer — then maybe I’ll consider *their” subjugation....

To listen to them now is like listening to a criminal complain about someone else stealing their drugs... LOL...


150 posted on 06/15/2009 1:57:41 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: alarm rider

They are not responsible for what their parents did.

And the 1979 Revolution consisted of about 10% of Iranians. From those taking part then, how many dozen were involved with the hostage taking?

Most were foolishly marching against the Shah and naively trusted Khomeini and the leftists who were part of the Revolution. And many regretted not long afterwards that they deserted the Shah.


151 posted on 06/15/2009 1:57:52 PM PDT by SolidWood (Down with the islamic regime! Freedom for Iran!)
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To: Star Traveler
Why do some people think that all of the Middle East is like Saudi Arabia?

Have you ever been in the Middle East?

152 posted on 06/15/2009 1:58:12 PM PDT by Allegra ( Stand up for FREEDOM, Iran.)
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To: G8 Diplomat

You said — Persians are not Arabs and actually have a desire to join civilization. Not all of them are brainwashed “Islam must dominate the world/death to the West” whackjobs. You can’t paint everyone with the same brush.

This is the fact that is relevant (from the CIA Factbook)...

Muslim 98% (Shia 89%, Sunni 9%)
Other (includes Zoroastrian, Jewish, Christian, and Baha’i) 2%

If they are Muslim and believe in the false god of Allah and the evil prophet Mohammed and believe the Koran — then they are *precisely* the evil that needs to be *eliminated* from this world, totally.

The quicker they are eliminated (any Muslim, who believes in the Koran, the prophet Mohammed and Allah and Sharia law) the better off the world will be.

It sounds like you’re a candidate for getting educated and viewing this...

Muslim Demographics...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU

and also, this...

Islam: What the West Needs to Know - FULL LENGTH ENGLISH VERSION
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-871902797772997781

and then, looking at this...

“The Third Jihad” (video - abridged version of film)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2271522/posts


153 posted on 06/15/2009 2:05:51 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler

Listen, I’m well aware of the fact that Islam is taking over the world and I agree it needs to be stopped. But you’re missing my point and you ignored everything I just told you. Iranian protestors are not whackjobs advocating a modern caliphate and worldwide shari’ah law—in fact they want the opposite. They’re tired of the mullahs’ shari’ah law and Islamic theocracy. Iranian students are by and large not pious Muslims; they drink alcohol, listen to and perform Western music, and have a liking for Western culture. You really don’t seem to know anything at all about Iranian society, so you are in no place to lecture me about it. Good bye.


155 posted on 06/15/2009 2:09:43 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (I'm learning Arabic, Farsi, Urdu, Pashtu, and Russian so someday you won't have to)
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To: Star Traveler

That is terrible what you wrote, that all these Muslims deserve to be shot. That is not the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob that I know. Cyrus the Great, who the Lord calls, “my chosen servant”, set the wheels in motion for the Jews to return to Israel from their exile in Babylon. He returned the treasures that had been stolen from the Temple and funded the first return of Jewish exiles from Babylon. It is the desire of YHWH that ALL the peoples of the earth should be blessed through Abraham. In Iran, you are born into Islam. If you choose to leave Islam, and it becomes known, you are signing your own death warrant.


160 posted on 06/15/2009 2:34:31 PM PDT by Judges Gone Wild (Who is this uncircumcised, to oppose the armies of The Living God?)
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