[immadashell]

I don't recall seeing anything here or hearing about reform to the state employee pension funds. Have they extended the minimum service requirement? Have they looked at ways to (!horrors!) privatize the funding process? Have they looked at severe fines to crooked elected officials (Conyers and the ex-mayor of Detroit and his dolly)? The statement, “We have already cut all the fat” is just another way to say, “You're getting too close to my neighborhood.” The states are all in the same fix and the reason is identical in every case — too many entitlements. Citizens need to take responsibility for their own circumstances because the gravy train is running on empty.

[businessprofessor]

Michigan to its credit made a major reform to public employee pensions (except teacher pensions) in the late 90s. I believe Republicans were mostly responsible for the reform.

[sergeantdave]

“I don’t recall seeing anything here or hearing about reform to the state employee pension funds. Have they extended the minimum service requirement? Have they looked at ways to (!horrors!) privatize the funding process?”

Please, you’re making sense. Common sense to dumbocrats are like a crucifix and holy water to vampires.

If you voiced such opinions in a Michigan bar, you’d be laughed at, followed by pants-wetting and crying that higher taxes are the solution to Michigan’s problems. I won’t mention that most of the fat slobs on the bar stools are collecting workmen’s comp, SS disability and welfare.