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"No Controlling Legal Authority" to Self Defense -- Sotomayer
AIP News.com ^ | 07/15/09 | Pascal Fervor

Posted on 07/15/2009 11:04:13 AM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla

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To: Avoiding_Sulla

LOL! Just TRY to stop me from defending myself or my loved ones.

I triple dog dare ya!

“The laws of nature are not subject to legislation.”


61 posted on 07/15/2009 2:23:42 PM PDT by Enoughofthissocialism (The laws of nature are not subject to legislation. Try to stop me from defendinging myself!)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla

apparently she HAS NOT read the Constitution nor heard of the 2ND Amendment which re-iterates the fact of private gun ownerships!!


62 posted on 07/15/2009 2:54:13 PM PDT by prophetic (God, let 0Bama and his evil plans for this country fail & let him be utterly disgraced like HAMAN!!)
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To: aimhigh

No matter what this individual says or doesn’t say, she has the support of the American people who think she is “on their side.” Even if she isn’t, the American people are sticking with her because they cannot be disproved under our “system”.


63 posted on 07/15/2009 3:15:53 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Hardastarboard

All she has to do show up and say anything, and the American people will at least cheer her for being there.


65 posted on 07/15/2009 3:18:07 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
ER ah, I thought self defense was a God given right.
66 posted on 07/15/2009 3:19:44 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
"She was deliberately evasive, so our senators need to deliberately remove her evasion."

I'm wondering how many Dems are willing to cave on this; is the entire Dem caucus a total loss?

67 posted on 07/15/2009 3:23:31 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: Hardastarboard
"I’ve been listening to the hearings a bit, and I have to say her intelligence, articulation and powers of logic do not impress me."

If liberals had powers of logic, they would not be liberals.

68 posted on 07/15/2009 3:27:03 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: ExSoldier

“inalienable right to life”

Not mentioned in the inaugural speech. THe word ‘life’ was used twice, IIRC, and not as inalienable.


69 posted on 07/15/2009 4:35:04 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Fili et Spiritus Sancti.)
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To: uscabjd

Sotomayor should have said the right to bear arms implies the right to use them in your own defense and therefore the right of self defense is inherent in the Constitution. As the framers believed.

No use getting into small scale criminal statutes, half of which are unconstitutional anyway, especially out of California.


70 posted on 07/15/2009 7:29:05 PM PDT by Titus-Maximus (Light from Light)
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To: Titus-Maximus

Unconstitutional? I think not.

I am a conservative Rep - a reliable vote in every election. But I still have my feet on planet Earth.


71 posted on 07/15/2009 9:17:16 PM PDT by uscabjd
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To: uscabjd

Really, then how are these local gun control laws being struck down by federal courts if they are not constitutional?

So yes they are unconstitutional.


72 posted on 07/16/2009 4:59:25 AM PDT by Titus-Maximus (Light from Light)
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To: MHGinTN

All anyone needs to know about soto babe is that she was picked by ozero. Birds of a feather. She is cut from the same cloth as a person who believes the Constitution is a “living, breathing document written by a bunch of dead WHITE guys”. This is code that the Constitution needs to be changed to reflect our changing racial nature.


73 posted on 07/16/2009 5:08:07 AM PDT by Texas resident ( Boys and Girls, it's us against them.)
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To: Titus-Maximus

You’re mixing apples and oranges. You are allowed to use force (guns, rocks, knives, fists) in self defense if you reasonably believe you are under attack or habitation is invaded. The only cases limiting this that I have seen involve spring or trap guns, that fire automatically.

Gun control laws do not speak to when one can use deadly force, as do the self defense laws, but to the type of weapon that can be used. I have upheld some such bans on fully automatic weapons. Personally I do not support such bans - but that is a political, not a legal position. Judges (should) deal only with the former - the latter is for those elected by the people.


74 posted on 07/16/2009 7:06:37 AM PDT by uscabjd
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To: uscabjd

I am not mixing apples and oranges.

The right to self defense is inherent in the 2nd amendment. The right to own a gun is a fundamental right and thus the right to use it to defend yourself is inherent.

Period full stop.

Read Debra Saunders of Townhall.com:

The most interesting exchange thus far occurred when Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., asked Sotomayor about a 2004 opinion, which she signed, that found that “the right to possess a gun is clearly not a fundamental right.”

Coburn wondered how courts cannot see the explicitly stated Second Amendment “right to keep and bear arms” as fundamental, yet can hold as fundamental the unexpressed right to privacy. Sotomayor answered: “Is there a constitutional right to self-defense? And I can’t think of one. I could be wrong, but I can’t think of one.”

For eight years, Democrats attacked the Bush administration for giving short shrift to personal liberties. As Obama wrote in “Audacity,” the Bush picks “showed a pattern of hostility toward civil rights, privacy and checks on executive power.”

Now the Obama pick for the Supreme Court can’t think of a right to defend yourself. That is arguably extraordinary.”


75 posted on 07/16/2009 7:53:12 AM PDT by Titus-Maximus (Light from Light)
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To: uscabjd

I am not mixing apples and oranges.

The right to self defense is inherent in the 2nd amendment. The right to own a gun is a fundamental right and thus the right to use it to defend yourself is inherent.

Period full stop.

Read Debra Saunders of Townhall.com:

The most interesting exchange thus far occurred when Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., asked Sotomayor about a 2004 opinion, which she signed, that found that “the right to possess a gun is clearly not a fundamental right.”

Coburn wondered how courts cannot see the explicitly stated Second Amendment “right to keep and bear arms” as fundamental, yet can hold as fundamental the unexpressed right to privacy. Sotomayor answered: “Is there a constitutional right to self-defense? And I can’t think of one. I could be wrong, but I can’t think of one.”

For eight years, Democrats attacked the Bush administration for giving short shrift to personal liberties. As Obama wrote in “Audacity,” the Bush picks “showed a pattern of hostility toward civil rights, privacy and checks on executive power.”

Now the Obama pick for the Supreme Court can’t think of a right to defend yourself. That is arguably extraordinary.”


76 posted on 07/16/2009 7:53:36 AM PDT by Titus-Maximus (Light from Light)
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To: henkster

Sotomayor Thinks (your name here) Is Stupid

and that all senators are spineless tools.
77 posted on 07/16/2009 2:49:24 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (Yesterday's Left = today's status quo. Thus "CONSERVATIVE": a conflicted label for battling tyranny.)
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To: uscabjd
You are not wrong. But why allow her latitude to dodge a question by rewording it so as to avoid revealing the truth of her statements that she is a reformed activist?

Sotomayor Thinks (your name here) Is Stupid

and that all senators are spineless tools.
78 posted on 07/16/2009 2:56:40 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (Yesterday's Left = today's status quo. Thus "CONSERVATIVE": a conflicted label for battling tyranny.)
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