Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Bidding Adieu to R-22
Contracting Business Magazine ^ | 7/1/2009 | Matt Michel

Posted on 07/17/2009 9:16:43 AM PDT by Entrepreneur

In a few months, the last R-22 air conditioner will roll down the assembly line, as the industry completes the Herculean effort to redesign every product, retool every factory, and retrain every technician for the conversion to R-410A. Yet, even now, momentum is building to phase-out R-410A.

Dumping R-410A would be even more ridiculous than phasing out R-22.

R-22 was served a death sentence with the 1987 Montreal Protocol, created in response to reported thinning of the ozone layer. Urgency was based on the discovery of the Antarctic ozone hole in 1985. We were told drastic action was required to save us from species extinction, skin cancer, and starvation. What we were told was wrong.

In 1956 Gordon Dobson (ozone is measured in Dobson units) noted that ozone levels from the Halley Bay Research Station in Antarctica were lower than expected during September and October, but returned to expected levels in November. When the same phenomenon repeated in 1957, Dobson noted, “It was clear that the winter vortex over the South Pole was maintained late into the spring and that this kept the ozone values low. When it suddenly broke up in November, both the ozone values and the stratosphere temperatures suddenly rose.”

Apparently, an Antarctic ozone hole was around long before CFCs. It appears seasonally and varies in size through the years. The 2006 ozone hole was the largest on record. In 2007, it shrank by 30%. The 2008 hole was the fifth largest since 1985. Could this be the result of nature, not man? Yes, according to a recent paper, “Ultraviolet Absorption Spectrum of Chlorine Peroxide, CLOOCL,” published in the Journal of Physical Chemistry, written by a team from the Jet Propulsion Lab (JPL) at Cal Tech. It's challenged our entire understanding of chemical ozone depletion.

Quirin Schiermeier wrote about the paper in Nature: “The rate of photolysis (light-activated splitting) of this molecule (CLOOCL) was extremely low in the wavelengths available in the stratosphere — almost an order of magnitude lower than the currently accepted rate.”

Since ozone depletion theory requires lots of chlorine radicals resulting from a high rate of photolysis of chlorine dioxide (CL2O2) to attack ozone molecules, the new findings blow up the theory underlying the Montreal Protocol. Suddenly, 60% of ozone destruction can't be explained.

Markus Rex, from Germany's Alfred Wegener Institute of Polar and Marine Research said, “If the measurements are correct we can basically no longer say we understand how ozone holes come into being.”

“Our understanding of chloride chemistry has really been blown apart,” said John Crowley of Germany's Max Planck Institute of Chemistry.

Cambridge University's Neil Harris, head of the European Ozone Research Coordinating Unit, noted, “Until recently everything looked like it fitted nicely. Now, suddenly, it's like a plank has been pulled out of a bridge.”

Last year, physicist Costas Verotsos from the University of Athens, commented in Environmental Science & Pollution Research that, “It is time that atmospheric scientists begin to think about new plausible mechanisms, which could fill the aforementioned gap between the observed and theoretical data of ozone depletion.”

Ya think? At least the JPL paper is recent. Way back in 1997, atmospheric science professor, Don Wuebbles, director of the Environmental Council at the University of Illinois, questioned the regulation and phase-out of HCFCs like R-22. Writing in Science, Wuebbles noted HCFCs “have very short atmospheric lifetimes, and mostly decompose before reaching the upper atmosphere. Effects on ozone depletion from some of these compounds are likely to be negligible.”

R-22's atmospheric life is less than 12 years, compared to a century for R-12.

So, even if the phase-out of CFCs was necessary (and Wuebbles thinks it was), there was no scientific basis for eliminating R-22. How could something like this happen?

In his book Ozone Diplomacy, Richard Benedick, the chief U.S. negotiator for the Montreal Protocol wrote, “Perhaps the most extraordinary aspect of the treaty was its imposition of short-term economic costs to protect human health and the environment against unproved future dangers — dangers that rested on scientific theories, rather than on firm data. At the time of the negotiations and signing, no measurable evidence of damage existed.”

It seems R-22 was killed over conjecture.

The people who comprise the HVAC industry always try to do the right thing. When pressured to phase-out R-410A, maybe the right thing is to say, “No.”


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: climatechange; montrealprotocol; ozonehole; refrigerantphaseout
The Montreal Protocol is considered the precursor for a broad treaty limiting greenhouse gas emissions. Gore mentioned it as a model in Senate testimony.
1 posted on 07/17/2009 9:16:44 AM PDT by Entrepreneur
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Entrepreneur

I want my cfc back in my asthma inhalers. I don’t care that they think the new are just as good, they are not.


2 posted on 07/17/2009 9:22:50 AM PDT by staytrue
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Entrepreneur
How about we go back to R-22?

IIRC - it was more efficient and cheaper.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

3 posted on 07/17/2009 9:31:14 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Entrepreneur

bookmark.


4 posted on 07/17/2009 9:36:51 AM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Entrepreneur
the Herculean effort to redesign every product, retool every factory, and retrain every technician for the conversion to R-410A.

Yup, MILLIONS OF DOLLARS for a LIE, and outright, bald-faced LIE.

5 posted on 07/17/2009 9:37:20 AM PDT by red-dawg (If you don't like the constitution, move to a country with one you like. LEAVE OURS ALONE.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Entrepreneur

CFC’s - the original Gorebal-warming scam...


6 posted on 07/17/2009 9:37:53 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: red-dawg

Well on the automotive side, it was a “jobs” program for HVAC engineers, LOL.


7 posted on 07/17/2009 9:38:31 AM PDT by nascarnation
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Entrepreneur

Well just Damn! My $500.00 air conditioner I bought a few years ago just went Kaput and it takes ...R-22. And the one I replaced it with takes...R-22. The old one still works perfectly, just will not cool.

Somehow when I saw the title of this thread I had a sick feeling it was about air conditioners.


8 posted on 07/17/2009 9:39:27 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (La commedia e' finita!. Now it's serious!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Entrepreneur

Give me R-12 or give me death!


9 posted on 07/17/2009 9:46:30 AM PDT by paulcissa (The first requirement of Liberalism is to stand on your head and tell the world they're upside down)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
The old one still works perfectly, just will not cool.

Ummmmm...never mind.

10 posted on 07/17/2009 9:52:52 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks Right-Wing.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Entrepreneur

CFC BS. There’s less sunlight where there are ozone holes (sunlight creates ozone), and the holes have existed the entire time we’ve had the technology to detect it.

I would bet huge sums of money they were always there and always will be.


11 posted on 07/17/2009 10:05:31 AM PDT by Crazieman (Feb 7, 2008 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1966675/posts?page=28#28)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: staytrue
"I want my cfc back in my asthma inhalers. I don’t care that they think the new are just as good, they are not."

I'm sure anyone not on insurance wants it back too! The pharmacy forgot to check for insurance when I gave them some updated scripts and the tab for an albuterol inhaler was $146!!! No generic available. Total BS.

12 posted on 07/17/2009 10:52:37 AM PDT by SiVisPacemParaBellum (Peace through superior firepower!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: xcamel

Bad science for ozone, like bad science for global warming.


13 posted on 07/17/2009 11:01:02 AM PDT by Fractal Trader
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Entrepreneur

Anyone that opposes air conditioning should be condemned to live in without it along the hot steamy Gulf Coast.


14 posted on 07/17/2009 11:20:35 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (BLOAT - Buy lots of ammo today)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Entrepreneur

Take all the air conditioners, open ‘em up, strip out the insides, fill ‘em with horse manure, and send ‘em all to Washington.


15 posted on 07/17/2009 11:27:50 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Crazieman
I would bet huge sums of money they were always there and always will be.

One of Gore's first big con jobs was the notion that the ozone layer is fragile. It's not. It's dynamic and robust.

As I understand it (and I could be wrong) O3 is created when UVC and UVB split O2, creating two free radical oxygen atoms. Add a free radical to O2 and you get O3. So...

Strip away the entire ozone layer. What lies beneath it? O2. The reactions start and ozone is created. A new layer would form.

The ozone layer regenerates. We couldn't destroy it if we tried.

16 posted on 07/17/2009 11:47:11 AM PDT by Entrepreneur (The environmental movement is filled with watermelons - green on the outside, red on the inside)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson