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1 posted on 07/17/2009 3:46:14 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache
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MARXISTS! DEFEAT THEM!


2 posted on 07/17/2009 3:47:13 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (The Taxman-Malarky Bill Is War On America!)
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Need a working link before I can forward this on to everyone on my email list.


3 posted on 07/17/2009 3:47:45 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (There is no justice at the Dept. of Justice when Black Panthers are cleared for terrorizing voters.)
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AlwaysAlwaysAlways...look for the money.....and when I do...

I see Democrats readying a “DeathCare Bill”...that effectively “puts down” the aging boomers....and an estate tax due to kick in in 2010..that puts their 401K’s in the Feds pockets....


4 posted on 07/17/2009 3:49:35 PM PDT by mo
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This guy is literally trying to kill people.

The Gulag is next, folks.

5 posted on 07/17/2009 3:49:40 PM PDT by Lazamataz ("If they taxed condoms and toilet paper, they'd have us coming and going." - Lazamataz, 2002)
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"...require EVERYONE who is on Social Security to undergo a counseling session every 5 years with the objective being that they will explain to them just how to end their own life earlier.

Link for this evil bomb from Obeyme?

7 posted on 07/17/2009 3:51:29 PM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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Audio Link Here!
11 posted on 07/17/2009 3:53:28 PM PDT by MrDem (Monthly Special: Will write OPUS's for Whiners and Crybabies for no charge.)
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Full text of the bill: http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/AAHCA-BillText-071409.pdf

You can bet I’m looking for this now!


14 posted on 07/17/2009 3:54:20 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast
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"Mandatory Counseling on Asst. Suicide"


Dr. Mengele ... paging Dr. Josef Mengele

So ... is it really that unreasonable to say that obama's socialism seems like a compromise between national socialism and soviet socialism?

15 posted on 07/17/2009 3:55:50 PM PDT by TurtleUp (So this is how liberty dies - to thunderous applause!)
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It's for the children who'll own our bonds... the youth in Asia.
18 posted on 07/17/2009 3:56:40 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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0bama is the head of the NSDAP

National Socialist Democrat American Party


20 posted on 07/17/2009 3:57:20 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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I don’t see it. There is a lot of talk about ‘advance care planing’ which is establishing in advance what sort of extent you would like physicians to take with your life if you are unable to make those decisions yourselves. You sign similar papers today when you have surgery. I don’t see ‘assisted suicide.’

There is plenty to scream about in this bill. Let’s not make stuff up.


21 posted on 07/17/2009 3:57:37 PM PDT by newheart (Obama. We kind of underestimated the creepiness.)
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She refers to Page 425 of the house bill that mandates every 5 years people on Medicare have to have a mandatory counseling session on how to shorten their life???

WTF???

23 posted on 07/17/2009 3:59:19 PM PDT by Gabrial
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I’m seeing all sorts of requirements for consultations on end-of-life treatment, development of Living Wills, etc., starting on p.425. Really bad, intrusive, statist, Orwellian stuff. But I’m not seeing pushing of suicide or anything of the sort. Perhaps some other Freeper will note some detail that has escaped me.


24 posted on 07/17/2009 3:59:23 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast
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I think the thugs are loading this with a bunch of crap so NHC bill will not get through congress. There is no money for this boondoggle ,they know it.

When it fails they can blame congress and say," Well we tried."

29 posted on 07/17/2009 4:00:35 PM PDT by BARLF
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I don’t see that in the bill. It talks about advance care planning, but that isn’t about assisted suicide, it’s about dealing with terminal illnesses and when to cease taking extraordinary measures.


30 posted on 07/17/2009 4:00:39 PM PDT by MediaMole
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There is no source for this. Your link goes to the show page ... but doesn’t say which transcript, or who make this statement.

Without it, the assertion is worthless.


31 posted on 07/17/2009 4:00:53 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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At least it will help save money by killing Democrats.


40 posted on 07/17/2009 4:03:52 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (The UN has never won a war, nor a conflict, but liberals want it to rule all militaries.)
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“..EVERYONE who is on Social Security to undergo a counseling session..”

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Are congress critters on SS?


44 posted on 07/17/2009 4:04:33 PM PDT by 353FMG (Death is Life without Freedom.)
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The exact text is:

`Advance Care Planning Consultation

    `(hhh)(1) Subject to paragraphs (3) and (4), the term `advance care planning consultation' means a consultation between the individual and a practitioner described in paragraph (2) regarding advance care planning, if, subject to paragraph (3), the individual involved has not had such a consultation within the last 5 years. Such consultation shall include the following:

      `(A) An explanation by the practitioner of advance care planning, including key questions and considerations, important steps, and suggested people to talk to.

      `(B) An explanation by the practitioner of advance directives, including living wills and durable powers of attorney, and their uses.

      `(C) An explanation by the practitioner of the role and responsibilities of a health care proxy.

      `(D) The provision by the practitioner of a list of national and State-specific resources to assist consumers and their families with advance care planning, including the national toll-free hotline, the advance care planning clearinghouses, and State legal service organizations (including those funded through the Older Americans Act of 1965).

      `(E) An explanation by the practitioner of the continuum of end-of-life services and supports available, including palliative care and hospice, and benefits for such services and supports that are available under this title.

      `(F)(i) Subject to clause (ii), an explanation of orders regarding life sustaining treatment or similar orders, which shall include--

        `(I) the reasons why the development of such an order is beneficial to the individual and the individual's family and the reasons why such an order should be updated periodically as the health of the individual changes;

        `(II) the information needed for an individual or legal surrogate to make informed decisions regarding the completion of such an order; and

        `(III) the identification of resources that an individual may use to determine the requirements of the State in which such individual resides so that the treatment wishes of that individual will be carried out if the individual is unable to communicate those wishes, including requirements regarding the designation of a surrogate decisionmaker (also known as a health care proxy).

      `(ii) The Secretary shall limit the requirement for explanations under clause (i) to consultations furnished in a State--

        `(I) in which all legal barriers have been addressed for enabling orders for life sustaining treatment to constitute a set of medical orders respected across all care settings; and

        `(II) that has in effect a program for orders for life sustaining treatment described in clause (iii).

      `(iii) A program for orders for life sustaining treatment for a States described in this clause is a program that--

        `(I) ensures such orders are standardized and uniquely identifiable throughout the State;

        `(II) distributes or makes accessible such orders to physicians and other health professionals that (acting within the scope of the professional's authority under State law) may sign orders for life sustaining treatment;

        `(III) provides training for health care professionals across the continuum of care about the goals and use of orders for life sustaining treatment; and

        `(IV) is guided by a coalition of stakeholders includes representatives from emergency medical services, emergency department physicians or nurses, state long-term care association, state medical association, state surveyors, agency responsible for senior services, state department of health, state hospital association, home health association, state bar association, and state hospice association.

    `(2) A practitioner described in this paragraph is--

      `(A) a physician (as defined in subsection (r)(1)); and

      `(B) a nurse practitioner or physician's assistant who has the authority under State law to sign orders for life sustaining treatments.

    `(3)(A) An initial preventive physical examination under subsection (WW), including any related discussion during such examination, shall not be considered an advance care planning consultation for purposes of applying the 5-year limitation under paragraph (1).

    `(B) An advance care planning consultation with respect to an individual may be conducted more frequently than provided under paragraph (1) if there is a significant change in the health condition of the individual, including diagnosis of a chronic, progressive, life-limiting disease, a life-threatening or terminal diagnosis or life-threatening injury, or upon admission to a skilled nursing facility, a long-term care facility (as defined by the Secretary), or a hospice program.

    `(4) A consultation under this subsection may include the formulation of an order regarding life sustaining treatment or a similar order.

    `(5)(A) For purposes of this section, the term `order regarding life sustaining treatment' means, with respect to an individual, an actionable medical order relating to the treatment of that individual that--

      `(i) is signed and dated by a physician (as defined in subsection (r)(1)) or another health care professional (as specified by the Secretary and who is acting within the scope of the professional's authority under State law in signing such an order, including a nurse practitioner or physician assistant) and is in a form that permits it to stay with the individual and be followed by health care professionals and providers across the continuum of care;

      `(ii) effectively communicates the individual's preferences regarding life sustaining treatment, including an indication of the treatment and care desired by the individual;

      `(iii) is uniquely identifiable and standardized within a given locality, region, or State (as identified by the Secretary); and

      `(iv) may incorporate any advance directive (as defined in section 1866(f)(3)) if executed by the individual.

    `(B) The level of treatment indicated under subparagraph (A)(ii) may range from an indication for full treatment to an indication to limit some or all or specified interventions. Such indicated levels of treatment may include indications respecting, among other items--

      `(i) the intensity of medical intervention if the patient is pulse less, apneic, or has serious cardiac or pulmonary problems;

      `(ii) the individual's desire regarding transfer to a hospital or remaining at the current care setting;

      `(iii) the use of antibiotics; and

      `(iv) the use of artificially administered nutrition and hydration.'.

      (2) PAYMENT- Section 1848(j)(3) of such Act (42 U.S.C. 1395w-4(j)(3)) is amended by inserting `(2)(FF),' after `(2)(EE),'.

      (3) FREQUENCY LIMITATION- Section 1862(a) of such Act (42 U.S.C. 1395y(a)) is amended--

        (A) in paragraph (1)--

          (i) in subparagraph (N), by striking `and' at the end;

          (ii) in subparagraph (O) by striking the semicolon at the end and inserting `, and'; and

          (iii) by adding at the end the following new subparagraph:

        `(P) in the case of advance care planning consultations (as defined in section 1861(hhh)(1)), which are performed more frequently than is covered under such section;'; and

        (B) in paragraph (7), by striking `or (K)' and inserting `(K), or (P)'.

      (4) EFFECTIVE DATE- The amendments made by this subsection shall apply to consultations furnished on or after January 1, 2011.

You can read for yourself what it says.

46 posted on 07/17/2009 4:05:43 PM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: nw_arizona_granny; Calpernia

Soros’ plan coming to fruition.
What a world.


48 posted on 07/17/2009 4:06:24 PM PDT by Velveeta
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