Posted on 07/23/2009 12:29:02 PM PDT by yoe
Put him on the neo-welfare state. His vast wealth was unearned and he’s opposed private savings accounts as a means to pay for private medical care.
Hoist him on his own petard.
Yeah but this one votes the way The Party demands. Of course he HAS slipped up on an abortion vote before and his staff had to make the correction for him.
It is disgusting that so many brain addled Democrats (including Robert Byrd who is in ascendency for the Presidency’s line of succession) as still exercising control over our lives (they don’t serve, they dictate).
RE: “One Senator with good spirit and cojones could stop this by placing a hold and going public - demanding that all Congress and gummint employees MUST be included......the support from American Citizens would be overwhelming!
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You said: “I concur. All federal employees - and their immediate family - should not be permitted to have any other care other than ObamaCare.”
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Yes! I contacted Pelosi’s DC office yesterday with the SAME message. We all need to blast reps with the news that we will NOT stand for any Obamacare plans that THEY, too, don’t participate in — either we ALL suffer under it or NONE of us do! And that includes the Zero family!
We need to make sure that this bill dies, before Teddy passed this vale of tears, just like he let Mary Jo die.
Speaking of which, get the federal workers UNDER Socialist Insecurity instead of their “private” retirement plan.
Give his the Red Pill its cheaper
Think they'd give up a perk like that and doom their families to shoddy treatment from the State?
Let’s ask Mary Jo.
If she agrees YES, then so be it.
Any federal worker hired since 1984 (25 years ago) is under social security. Don’t read much, do you?
I think you chumped YOURSELF wrt fool’s play on words, LOL
Not having worked for The State, I am not intimately knowledgable of it. I do know that I’ve read from people who spent their lives working in the public sector who won’t work for private industry and compromise their retirement.
I know there are pensions that pay upwards of 90% of annual salary.
But I am also refering to their rejection of getting under Social Security. I go by their own statements. Perhaps these are older workers since they may be less likely to retire in 2009 if they started in 1989.
You don’t need to have worked for the state to be aware of the 1983 social security reforms of the Greenspan commission - they are discussed in lots and lots of books. And by the way, the Greenspan Commission moved federal workers into social security to (temporarily) shore up the SS trust fund.
No federal pension pays 90% of annual salary, unless there is something special for the president or congress. You are simply wrong.
Actually your original play on words is the opposite of the truth - the old federal system is more insecure than the Social Security system. The old Civil Service Retirement system is a giant unfunded liability. When given the chance I GLADLY switched to SS. As I said to my wife at the time “When SS runs out of money at the same time as the old federal pension system, which do you think is going to be first in line with the politicians? You think they will fight SS receipients to pay federal pensions? Please!”
I said public sector when I made the 90% claim which is what seemed to briefly be the rate when many city employees opted to grab it while they could in Houston.
I appreciate the correction to the above statement but I my intent wasn’t to hijack this thread.
Then back to Kennedy ... enough of the talk of sending him to sea! I eat seafood, and would rather not have it contaminated, thank you very much!
In a sane and fair world he would just now be coming up for a parole hearing for the negligent homicide of Mary Jo Kopechne.
No! Give him 0bamaCare!
What about military? They are on the federal payroll as well.
I thought about exempting them, but it’s a political point, not a policy point, so keep it simple.
And, it’s great, isn’t it? Don’t we want the BEST for the military?!@
Chappaquidick episode makes him excempt........sar
This is an excellent article. Obama should publicly ask Kennedy to resist further care and take one for the team. His death by selfless health care rationing should motivate us all to force the same thing on everyone.
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