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Blue Dogs Roll Over
IBD Editorials ^ | July 30, 2009 | INVESTOR BUSINESS DAILY Staff

Posted on 07/30/2009 5:29:48 PM PDT by Kaslin

Congress: In exchange for a vague promise of cuts in the cost of health care "reform," a few fiscally conservative Democrats agree to release the bill to a September floor vote. Have the pit bulls become Chihuahuas?


Apparently even a Blue Dog Democrat will stop growling if you toss him a big enough bone. Four of the seven who helped keep the House bill bottled up in the Energy and Commerce Committee — Mike Ross of Arkansas, Baron Hill of Indiana, Zack Space of Ohio and Bart Gordon of Tennessee — agreed to vote the bill out of committee in exchange for a promise of unspecified cuts.

Ross, a Blue Dog Coalition leader, said changes agreed to by the defectors and the leadership would cut the cost of the trillion-dollar House bill by almost $100 billion over the next decade. What the cuts are remains unknown, and in the past such promises of cuts have been like Lucy offering to hold the football one more time for Charlie Brown. In exchange, for their consciences, there won't be a floor vote before September.

There are additional parts to the deal. The compromise would allow states to create health "co-ops" that would also compete with a government-run "public option" and private insurers. Rates on the "public option" would not be tied to Medicare, but separately negotiated. Energy and Commerce Chairman Henry Waxman agreed to loosen the employer mandate so that it covered firms with payrolls over $500,000 rather than the original $400,000.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Alaska; US: Indiana; US: Ohio; US: Tennessee
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To: Kaslin

The Blue Eyeshadow Democrats hold out for a higher price.


21 posted on 07/30/2009 5:50:15 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: Kaslin

A shame, but no big surprise.

Rahm ‘dead fish’ Emmanuel recruited most of the so-called “blue dog Democrats” personally.

The Democrats have such a plurality that they can afford to lose some votes. They allow some of them to vote against a particular bill to preserve their reputations at home as ‘blue dogs’, AS LONG AS the bill passes anyway.

But when it comes to nut-crunchin’ time, if they need a vote, they just twist arms (1st choice) or bribe members (2nd choice) until they secure the votes they need.

The ‘blue dogs’ are really just ‘manchurian candidates’ by another name. They’re there to fool the public into thinking the Democratic party is centrist.


22 posted on 07/30/2009 5:55:09 PM PDT by zipper
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To: SkyPilot

Nah, she’s a lunatic


23 posted on 07/30/2009 5:55:57 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for 0bama: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

“in exchange for a promise”

of millions, no doubt.


24 posted on 07/30/2009 6:03:58 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Fili et Spiritus Sancti.)
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To: windsorknot
What they'll settle for: 30 pieces

30 peices of silver

25 posted on 07/30/2009 6:12:43 PM PDT by preacher (A government which robs from Peter to pay Paul will always have the support of Paul.)
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To: Kaslin
My guess is that this move was a Blue Dog fig leave. They wanted to get out of town for the summer recess in good stead with the hard left Dem leadership. But, when they get back to their districts and get a real ration of hell, they can come back in Sept and take a hard center position.
26 posted on 07/30/2009 6:18:04 PM PDT by AlphaOneAlpha
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To: Kaslin
Apparently even a Blue Dog Democrat will stop growling if you toss him a big enough bone.

The problem is that the "bone" Waxman offered them is bribes that he will pay out of more of our tax dollars on top of the cost of this monstrocity!!

We need to make sure that the political cowards on BOTH sides of the aisle understand where the bribe money comes from and that they have surpassed the "enough-is-enough" limit!!!

27 posted on 07/30/2009 6:31:08 PM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: AlphaOneAlpha
take a hard center position

LOL

28 posted on 07/30/2009 6:32:10 PM PDT by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org/)
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To: Kaslin
If this gets out of committee they will get it all. We don't have the votes to stop it and apparently the Blue Dogs have the same spine manufacturer our Pubbies have. Damn them all.
29 posted on 07/30/2009 6:33:20 PM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: Kaslin

Then they are OUT in 2010. They need to work on their Resumes.


30 posted on 07/30/2009 6:34:54 PM PDT by Paige ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing," Edmund Burke)
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To: Kaslin

So their bark IS worse than their bite. Well, this just sets up some great issues for the Republicans in 2010, as long as it’s a conservative running against the Blue Dog.


31 posted on 07/30/2009 6:47:49 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Kaslin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He82NBjJqf8


32 posted on 07/30/2009 6:51:11 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Liberal sacred cows make great hamburger)
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To: freekitty
The American public does not want DEATHCARE..

and congress says, 'so what?'

33 posted on 07/30/2009 6:55:47 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Kaslin

More payoff from the Republican voters who “showed THEM” in the 2008 elections by staying home.


34 posted on 07/30/2009 7:14:26 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government -- Thomas Payne)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
Four of the seven who helped keep the House bill bottled up in the Energy and Commerce Committee -- Mike Ross of Arkansas, Baron Hill of Indiana, Zack Space of Ohio and Bart Gordon of Tennessee -- agreed to vote the bill out of committee in exchange for a promise of unspecified cuts. Ross, a Blue Dog Coalition leader, said changes agreed to by the defectors and the leadership would cut the cost of the trillion-dollar House bill by almost $100 billion over the next decade.
IOW, over ten years, the bill will cost $100 billion a year, and these unspecified (i.e., non-existent) savings no more than $10 billion a year; and the actual cost will be something like $3 trillion over ten years.
35 posted on 07/30/2009 7:41:24 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

Indeed


36 posted on 07/30/2009 7:46:35 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for 0bama: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

WOW!! I AM STUNED!! This is HUGH and SERIES!! Oh, what, oh, whatever shall we do now?!? [fans self rapidly to stave off a severe case of the vapors]

/sarc

Seriously, most people saw this coming, the same way day follows dawn!


37 posted on 07/30/2009 7:51:47 PM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: Kaslin

Thing is, if it makes it outta the House, are there 67 Senators to vote for it? (he asked, thinking even some Dems would bolt on it before it ever came to be signed)


38 posted on 07/30/2009 8:08:05 PM PDT by Category Four (Joy, Fun, the Joke Proper, and Flippancy ... Flippancy is the best of all.)
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To: Kaslin

The reasonable side of my brain keeps thinking “this health care bill will never happen, it is insane”.

Then the hysterical side of my brain keeps screaming “it is gonna happen I am sure it’s gonna happen”.

I think I am becoming bipolar!


39 posted on 07/30/2009 8:13:35 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Category Four

If Republicans going to vote for it, then you know they are the usual RINOs who always vote with the rats


40 posted on 07/30/2009 8:15:07 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for 0bama: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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