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Mr. President, We Are Not Demagogues -- Please Talk With Us
NumbersUSA ^ | Thursday, August 13, 2009, 11:30 PM | roy beck

Posted on 08/15/2009 9:00:33 PM PDT by ckilmer

 

 

 

Mr. President, We Are Not Demagogues -- Please Talk With Us

 

 

In Mexico, Pres. Obama called us a bad name.

He was using his appearance in a foreign country to promise that he is determined early next year to "legalize" 12-20 million illegal aliens and put them on a path to U.S. citizenship.

He made it pretty clear that he has a lot more admiration for citizens of other countries who break our immigration laws than he does for his own fellow citizens who oppose a blanket amnesty.  The New York Times reported that Mr. Obama said:

(There almost certainly will be) demagogues out there who try to suggest that any form or pathway for legalization for those who are already in the United States is unacceptable.

-- Pres. Obama

Is it possible that Mr. Obama was using the term in its second definition?  If so, he was saying that those of us who oppose amnesty are:

A leader championing the cause of the common people in ancient times.

-- Merriam-Webster's 2nd definition of "demagogue"

Well, we at NumbersUSA truly believe that our leadership -- and that of a mobilized grassroots -- in keeping the 2006 amnesty off the House floor and in defeating the 2007 amnesty in the Senate was clearly championing the cause of the common people.

But that very positive definition seems to only be applicable "in ancient times."

No, I think when the word "demagogues" rolled off his tongue in this modern time, his erudite brain was operating in Merriam-Webster's first definition:

A leader who makes use of popular prejudices and false claims and promises in order to gain power.

-- Merriam-Webster's 1st definition of "demagogue"

Mr. President, we need to talk.

If you think that our concerns about what an amnesty would do to America's most vulnerable workers and communities are based solely on prejudices and false claims, you obviously know nothing about us -- and perhaps very little about the complexities of the immigration issue.

While there may be many on our side of the issue who despise the millions of foreign workers who illegally take U.S. jobs, I believe most anti-amnesty Americans are like NumbersUSA in bearing no great ill will toward them. Our reasons for opposing amnesty are not based on our dislike of illegal aliens but on our concern for and good will toward our fellow Americans.

You indicated in Mexico that you believe the chief concern should be for fairness for the illegal aliens:

But ultimately, I think the American people want fairness. And we can create a system in which you have strong border security and an orderly process for people to come in. But we’re also giving an opportunity for those who are already in the United States to be able to achieve a pathway to citizenship so they don’t have to live in the shadows.

-- Pres. Obama

I really have not seen any sign that you understand our concern for the fairness to the millions of jobless Americans who have relatively the same education and skill levels as the illegal aliens and who would not be facing the foreclosure of their homes and other economic crises if your predecessors had stopped unscrupulous employers from hiring illegal workers.

Let me explain this to you or your people.  NumbersUSA has sought a chance to do this all year, just like you have allowed the pro-amnesty and pro-foreign-worker groups to do.  Even the open-border Pres. Bush allowed us to do that.

Mr. President, we are not demagogues. Our claims may be different than yours, but they are not false.

We are driven by many of the same high principles that you stated in your campaign for the Presidency:  economic justice, environmental sustainability, concern for the well-being of people in the poorest countries of the world.

Let us explain why we think the "comprehensive immigration reform" that you have promised works against all three of those principles.  And we will listen respectfully to your reactions.

The officials of your Administration have spent much time this last week calling for civil discussions of the hottest issues of the day.

Labeling us as demagogues does not promote civil discussion.

Your Administration's refusal to meet with us does not promote civil discussion.

When can we start?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government
KEYWORDS: 111th; bho44; bhocira; bhoillegals; illegal; illegalalien; illegalalieninvasion; illegalimmigrant; illegalpresident; obama

1 posted on 08/15/2009 9:00:34 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer
It isn't all that hard to identify the demagogue in this debate.
2 posted on 08/15/2009 9:02:38 PM PDT by Interesting Times (For the truth about "swift boating" see ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: ckilmer

If this administration thinks they’ve seen anger over Obamacare, just wait until they try to ram amnesty down the American peoples’ throats.

You ain’t seen nothin’ yet,
B-B-B-Baby, you just ain’t seen nothin’ yet,
Here’s something that you never gonna forget,
B-B-B-Baby, you just ain’t seen nothin’ yet.


3 posted on 08/15/2009 9:09:15 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: ckilmer
No one needs to talk to this president at all. We already know what he wants and what he will do to attain that. Talking is a waste of time. Organizing large groups of voters to kick his sorry ass out of office is the kind of talking we need to be doing.
4 posted on 08/15/2009 9:15:43 PM PDT by fish hawk (Lord, help us to attain knowledge and the wisdom to apply it toward your ultimate will.)
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To: All

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It makes me angry to see ‘Mr. President’, ‘with all due respect’, et al.
This muzzie usuper pos is not president, and we owe him NO respect.

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5 posted on 08/15/2009 9:26:51 PM PDT by patriot08
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To: ckilmer

Please ??????????? Hell no never that elephant eared Kenyan clown better look out the window at all the Americans he pissed off.


6 posted on 08/15/2009 9:31:14 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: ckilmer
No...please, do not ask him to "talk to us" anymore. I am tired of seeing his mug on the TV, and sick of hearing him flap his jaws on and on and on.

Besides, he has said more than enough and there's not much to talk about as reagrds any leanings to fundamental republican principle, the free market, individual liberty, or the constitution. Those are all clearly viewed as impediments to this President and it is time now to organize, plan, and act to neuter him in 2010, and send him packing in 2012.


OBAMA'S BRIDGE TOO FAR


THE STORM UNLEASHED ON AMERICA

A PETITION ON FACEBOOK FOR CONSTITUTIONAL RESTORATION

7 posted on 08/15/2009 9:40:22 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head

“He was using his appearance in a foreign country to promise that he is determined early next year to “legalize” 12-20 million illegal aliens and put them on a path to U.S. citizenship”.

The more violent of those millions should be put on a “scaffold with a trap door” and put on a “PATH TO ETERNITY”!


8 posted on 08/15/2009 9:58:27 PM PDT by outhousepatrol
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To: fish hawk

BUMP!

IF you could get him to sit down and talk, all he’d do is blow smoke up your ass. He’s a community organizer. That’s all he knows how to do.

He has already demonstrated hundreds of times that he knows nothing about being President. And I don’t think he cares. As long as he has the power.


9 posted on 08/15/2009 10:19:08 PM PDT by upchuck (Neuter them in 2010 - Send them packing in 2012.)
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To: ckilmer; All

10 posted on 08/16/2009 2:18:24 AM PDT by backhoe (All across America, the Lights are going out...)
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To: backhoe

11 posted on 08/16/2009 2:26:15 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: PhilDragoo


Ouch!

12 posted on 08/16/2009 3:16:37 AM PDT by backhoe (All across America, the Lights are going out...)
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To: ckilmer

WHY IS IT......IF YOU CROSS THE NORTH KOREAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET 12 YEARS HARD LABOR......

IF YOU CROSS THE US BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET A DRIVERS LICENSE, SOCIAL SECURITY CARD, FREE HEALTH CARE, and ACORN counts you in the next census and enables you to vote.

WHO’S BRIGHT IDEA WAS THIS??????
(Americans must be stupid)

No, but their legislators are traitors.


13 posted on 08/18/2009 9:35:00 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Does 0b0z0 have any friends, who aren't traitors, spies, tax cheats and criminals?)
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