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To: IbJensen

I’m sorry, but I cannot agree with the sentiment that religious belief, even one as wrong as being a Muslim, should disqualify you from employment in law enforcement, the military, or DHS, or other jobs where you are expected to defend America.

It is too broad a brush in my opinion. I know that others strongly believe that no Muslim can be trusted at all; of course, I know people who believe the same about certain types of Christians, or Mormons, or Jews, or people of other faiths.

It is a downside to a pluralistic society that respects freedom of religion, that this means having to turn a somewhat blind eye to what we know to be belief in false religions, lest people who dislike our religions use our precedent to equally discriminate against us.


3 posted on 09/25/2009 8:40:12 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I believe you carry this a bit far. We can’t sit back and ignore what has happened in this world during the last few years. If we do, we are fools. It has been muslims that have caused distruction in the middle east. Now, all muslims aren’t bad, I agree. But enough of them have turned against the world that we must be watchful of all of them. Now they are developing Nuclear weapons. Do we wait until they use them? I don’t think so.


15 posted on 09/25/2009 8:53:58 AM PDT by RC2
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Did you miss this part?

During his years in Los Angeles, Alikhan was responsible for derailing the Police Department’s plan to monitor activities within the Los Angeles Muslim community, where numerous radical mosques and madrassas existed, and where some of the 9/11 hijackers had received support from local residents.

Alikhan is strongly anti-Israel; he has referred to the terrorist organization Hezbollah as a “liberation movement.” Hezbollah is on the U.S. official terrorist list while being an affiliate of the Muslim Public Affairs Council. Alikhan also opposed President George W. Bush’s prosecution of the war on Islamic terror.

In 2007, Alikhan was instrumental in removing the Muslim terror tracking plan in Los Angeles. The Muslim '‘Mapping’' Plan of the Los Angeles Police Department is now “dead on arrival” according to Chief William Bratton. “It is over and not just put on the side,” said Chief Bratton in a meeting with the Muslim leadership of Southern California at that time. The meeting was moderated by Arif Alikhan.

It's not that he is Muslim, it is that he has a history of undermining national security. And this is no broad brush, they are specifically discussing the actions of the individual(s) in question. Do you really want someone like that in a position of power in the DHS?
17 posted on 09/25/2009 8:55:38 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I agree with you Charles on principle- however- in this man’s case- please read his background and quotes- he thinks Hezbollah is a liberation movement and is anti-Israel.


39 posted on 09/25/2009 9:24:54 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I’m sorry, but I cannot agree with the sentiment that religious belief, even one as wrong as being a Muslim, should disqualify you from employment in law enforcement, the military, or DHS, or other jobs where you are expected to defend America.

There is a very good reason why farmers don't keep foxes in the chicken coop. They may not be Harvard graduates but they know that hoping the fox will be nice to the chickens and will protect them from other foxes won't make it so.

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43 posted on 09/25/2009 9:31:26 AM PDT by Iron Munro (You can't kill the beast while sucking at its teat - Claire Wolfe)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Islam is not a religion like the others. It is a totalitarian ideology with its own law, and thus is antithetical to our Bill of Rights and our Constitution. I’m surprised you haven’t realized this by now.


44 posted on 09/25/2009 9:33:47 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade, There are only two sides. Pick one.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Keep your political correctness to yourself please.

To Hell with Islam.


45 posted on 09/25/2009 9:34:50 AM PDT by chris37
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Islam Does Not Qualify Under US Constitution “Freedom of Religion” Rights

Wake up America, Islam is not just a religion. It is an entire political, cultural and monetary system designed around their so called “Religion.” Islam and its various advocacy groups are trying to garner sympathy and support from Americans who do not fully understand this wolf hiding in sheep’s clothing. Most Americans simply dismiss issues surrounding Islam thinking that Muslims are simply exercising their religious rights under the 1st Amendment. This is not true. Islam is abusing and perverting the rights afforded to religions under the 1st Amendment. It has to stop. article

62 posted on 09/25/2009 10:16:46 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I cannot agree with the sentiment that religious belief, even one as wrong as being a Muslim, should disqualify you from employment in law enforcement, the military, or DHS,...

You're kidding aren't you?

If not you are amongst the extremely naive knaves!

78 posted on 09/25/2009 10:35:38 AM PDT by IbJensen (If Catholic voters were true to their faith there would be no abortion and no President Obama.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

IT’S NOT THAT HE IS “JUST” A MUSLIM - DIDN’T YOU READ THE ARTICLE??????? HE CALLED HEZBOLLAH A LIBERATION ORGANIZATION AND DERAILED WATCHING MOSQUES ETC FOR TERRORISM! HE’S ON THE *OTHER* SIDE!!!

Which freaking side of terrorism are YOU on? Freaking high horse of non-prejudice. It’s not prejudice to not want a Muslim terrorist helper and enabler in the DHS.

It’s not that you don’t get it. You are either completely blind or like Muslim terrorists, there is no other explanation.


83 posted on 09/25/2009 10:41:16 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Islam is not a religion. It is a murderous cult. A murderous cult that has brazenly sworn to take over the United States from within using our own laws and democracy.


91 posted on 09/25/2009 10:47:26 AM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT; IbJensen; Islaminaction; Bokababe

The problem is that islam is not just a religion, but also a political system—a foreign EMPIRE whose goal is the conquest of the entire world and its subjugation to sharia law. That most certainly includes America.

Every American should see this full-length film, and educate him- or herself:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-871902797772997781#


97 posted on 09/25/2009 10:51:09 AM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Would you appoint a member of the Nazi party to homeland security job?


103 posted on 09/25/2009 10:56:28 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Sorry, your political correctness is so yesterday. Those days are gone. I don’t want to hear it.


120 posted on 09/25/2009 11:36:50 AM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

When Muslims prove they can put their allegiance to the US ahead of their love of Jihad, I’ll trust them. When that happens. Not before.


188 posted on 09/26/2009 7:44:54 PM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
It is too broad a brush in my opinion. I know that others strongly believe that no Muslim can be trusted at all; of course, I know people who believe the same about certain types of Christians, or Mormons, or Jews, or people of other faiths.

The difference is Christians, Mormons, Jews or people of other faiths have never flown airplanes into the World Trade Center, the Pentagon or an empty field and killed thousands of people. They don't strap explosives to themselves and blow people of "other faiths" to smithereens, they don't cause Airplanes in Scotland to crash killing hundreds, they don't murder their wives and girlfriends and claim they did it for the "honor" of the family.

I could keep going but what is the point? The people who don't trust other religions really have no evidence to back up their mistrust, people who don't trust muslims have thousands of incidents they can point to over just the last 30 years to justify their mistrust.

DHS was started so we could keep an eye on muslims, whom we happen to be at war with, and make sure they don't kill off any more Americans.

Also, this isn't a job where an ad is placed and you apply for it. This is an appointed position that never should have gone to a muslim or Napolitano for that matter.

189 posted on 09/26/2009 7:46:37 PM PDT by calex59 (FUBO, we want our constitution back and we intend to get it!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Now what do you think? Idiot. I tried to leave off the last sentence but couldn’t. Sorry.


200 posted on 11/06/2009 4:29:01 PM PST by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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