Beam me to Planet Gore !
Posted on 10/13/2009 7:20:50 AM PDT by raptor22
Climate Change: As a Colorado Rockies playoff game is snowed out, scientists report that Arctic sea ice is thickening and Antarctic snow melt is the lowest in three decades. Whatever happened to global warming?
Al Gore wasn't there to throw out the first snowball, er, baseball, so he might not have noticed that Saturday's playoff game between the Colorado Rockies and the Philadelphia Phillies was snowed out - in early October. The field should have been snow-free just as the North Pole was to be ice-free this year.
It seems that ice at both poles hasn't been paying attention to the computer models. The National Snow and Ice Data Center released its summary of summer sea-ice conditions in the Arctic last week and reported a substantial expansion of "second-year ice" - ice thick enough to have persisted through two summers of seasonal melting.
(Excerpt) Read more at realclearmarkets.com ...
Apparently there is a shortage of CO2. Need to burn much more fuel. Isn’t that the way it works?
It’s not Global warming any more. Remeber? It’s climate change (the new definition). Apparently the old definition (Summer, Fall, Winter, Spring) no longer apply to these looneys on the Left. It’s all about money.
They cannot even get 1 year right, let alone 50 or 100
Watch the left wing green economic terrorists drop their Global Warming bs and go to Climate Change BS.
That way we as humans can be blamed for any climate change inspite of climate changes as long as the planet has been around.
Exactly.
We demand tax credits for purchasing SUVs
And a thriving market for carbon onsets (for those not doing enough to release more CO2)...give me $5 and I’ll burn a tire in your honor
And why should it be easier to predict the weather then say an average of 50 years ?
If you take a quick look on the charts of antartic ice you can see the reason why there’s 30% increase of ice that hase been there for two years.
It’s because in 2007 and 8 there was an unseen loss of ice in the antarctic.
This article was tailor made for those weak in math in high in faith.
great post
sorry - change antarctic to artic.
In the antarctic there’s a slight increase of ice: 0.7% in the long term average.
Does that say anything about global warming ?
Hint - it’s not called antartic warming - why ?
So, I admit that I have a paranoid bias and see a story like this as a likely attempt to "prove" that Antarctica is warming at an alarming rate. I'm guilty.
Anyway, the interviewer stumbled (in my opinion) on a couple points. One of her questions was a very innocent: "If you want to measure the ice, isn't this a strange time to start? I mean, summer is starting down there isn't it?" The scientist hemmed and hawed quite a bit and gave a weak answer attempting to justify the timing.
Another question: "Your study is concentrating on the Western edge of Antarctica. Due to current patterns, isn't that the edge which is likely to have the thinnest ice?" Again, a pretty simple question, but the scientist seemed very nervous and again hemmed and hawed quite a bit.
I trust nothing that these people say.
Doncha just love those TV spots showing a poor wittle baby polar bear floating on a hunk of ice separated from mommy bear by several yards of open water? The implication is of course that we greedy, uncaring Americans are dooming the polar bears to extinction with our SUV's and factories spewing deadly greenhouse gases into the formerly pristine atmosphere.
Funny how they never seem to mention the fact that last winter the Canadian government's wildlife agency found that the arctic polar bear population is now approximately five times higher than it was 15 or 20 years ago.
If you live under the expression, that the weather during a season in the state of washington might be a useful fact to counter a theory that averages the whole world for a duration of at least 30 years (long year metorological average) - then you are REALLY bad in math.
if (a) was the washington state area (185km^2) multiplied by a season (90 days) you get this number -> 16650 km^2 days
(a) represents the area and time of weather you observed
b = world = 510 000km^2 * 10950 day = 55 845 000 km^2 days
that’s the area and time in wich you can start to talk about observing climate on this planet.
I would estimate that under extreme circumstances the temperature of a whole season in washington might differ 3 or 5 °C from the long year average.
That means you have stated that you observed something that may - under extreme conditions influence the observed world climate in the long year average by 0,0001 %
This is - as you may agree - far below any threshold of significance.
. I can't find the web page where I saw that Canadian report a few months ago, does any one else remember seeing it? If anyone knows where to find it I would like to see it again.
I found THIS but it doesn't contain the same figures.
I have no idea what point you were trying to make in your two replies to this thread.
My posting was one example of thousands. Taken as a totality a trend begins to develop. But you knew that.
so we were at 0,1% of significance - but if there was more data to show there was no global warming - why is nobody citing a proper statistic about it ?
There’s no indication for global cooling. There’s no knwon reason for global cooling and both is existant for global warming.
Also there’s a possibility how adding CO2 to the atmosphere might influence long term global average temperatures (to increase).
Why not consider man made global warming possible and indicated but unproven if all the data (including those of the sources cited in this article here) point into that direction ?
It’s doesn’t mean necessarily to drive a slow and clumsy car (like en vogue in the USA) you can have a proper european one that is also manufactured in the US.
Also it doesn’t mean you have to love Al.
Maybe it just means the US could us more Engineers in the future than Bankers, Lawyers and Politicians.
Seen with political eyes, global Warming is a complete failure for the GOP - they just ignored the facts AND the political potential.
“Also there’s a possibility how adding CO2 to the atmosphere might influence long term global average temperatures (to increase).”
The fact is Global warming PRECEEDS CO2 increases. Look at the graphs.
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