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How Turkey Was Lost to the West (NATO Member Now Part of the Iranian Axis)
RealClearWorld ^ | 10/16/2009 | Caroline Glick

Posted on 10/16/2009 2:33:55 PM PDT by mojito

Once the apotheosis of a pro-Western, dependable Muslim democracy, this week Turkey officially left the Western alliance and became a full member of the Iranian axis.

It isn't that Ankara's behavior changed fundamentally in recent days. There is nothing new in its massive hostility toward Israel and its effusive solicitousness toward the likes of Syria and Hamas. Since the Islamist AKP party first won control over the Turkish government in the 2002 elections, led by AKP chairman Recip Tayyip Erdogan, the Turks have incrementally and inexorably moved the formerly pro-Western Muslim democracy into the radical Islamist camp populated by the likes of Iran, Syria, Hizbullah, al-Qaida and Hamas.

What made Turkey's behavior this week different from its behavior in recent months and years is that its attacks were concentrated, unequivocal and undeniable for everyone outside of Israel's scandalously imbecilic and flagellant media.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: incirlikairbase; iran; israel; muslimworld; nato; turkey
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An enemy state is now a NATO member. Not a peep about this from anyone in our government or media.

Obama, one suspects, supports this development.

1 posted on 10/16/2009 2:33:55 PM PDT by mojito
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Turkey is still Israel’s largest trading partner. That seems rather strange for a state that ‘hates’ Israel.


2 posted on 10/16/2009 2:36:59 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Deficit spending, trade deficits, unsecure mortages, worthless paper... ... not a problem. Oh yeah?)
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“...Erdogan’s anti-Israel and anti-Semitic blows were followed on Tuesday evening by Turkey's government-controlled TRT1 television network's launch of a new prime-time series portraying IDF soldiers as baby- and little girl-killers who force Palestinian women to deliver stillborn babies at roadblocks and line up groups of Palestinians against walls to execute them by firing squad.”

Interesting way to treat your “largest trading partner.”

3 posted on 10/16/2009 2:43:07 PM PDT by mojito
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Well, it’s evident to me after looking around a bit, that Turkey’s new leader has gone off the deep end as it relates to Israel.

I’m sure he’s a Jew hating bastard just like so many in the Middle-East.

How anyone can fault a nation who trys to stop rockets from raining down it it’s citizens, even if it does cost lives to do it, is beyond me.

If Hamas wants peace, if can have it any day of the week it wants. Until then, it’s open season for Israeli hunters as far as I am concerned.

Turkey, pull your head out.


4 posted on 10/16/2009 2:45:09 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Deficit spending, trade deficits, unsecure mortages, worthless paper... ... not a problem. Oh yeah?)
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a new prime-time series portraying IDF soldiers as baby- and little girl-killers who force Palestinian women to deliver stillborn babies at roadblocks and line up groups of Palestinians against walls to execute them by firing squad.”

So Turkey's media is just like ours.

5 posted on 10/16/2009 2:47:42 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Hear us, O Bama: Mmm, mmm, mmm.)
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We don’t have a media. We have the propaganda arm of the State.

Have you watched the evening news lately? I did this week.

It’s an amalgam of crap for dummies.

If you are not on the net and actively looking at foreign news and alternative sites, you don’t know what is going on in the world.

The Alphabet news is damned.


6 posted on 10/16/2009 2:49:21 PM PDT by OpusatFR (Those embryos are little humans in progress. Using them for profit is slavery.)
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To: mojito

I’m not sold on the largest trading partner thing anymore either. I could have sworn I read that a while back, but it sure doesn’t seem verifiable today.

It’s an interesting way to treat anyone. It is quite typical actions supported by the Big-Lie(s) that get spread around in the Middle-East though.

Israeli action is always precipitated by terrorist activity. Hamas violence is seldom preceded by any specific event other than that they just decided to inflict violence on innocents.

Sorry to have doubted your post at first. I am going to have to agree with you after looking around.


7 posted on 10/16/2009 2:49:24 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Deficit spending, trade deficits, unsecure mortages, worthless paper... ... not a problem. Oh yeah?)
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If this were just another spasm of ugly anti-semitic hatred by a Muslim state it could be written off, as these things are, as business as usual.

Unfortunately, that isn't so:

“On Monday, 11 Turkish government ministers descended on Syria to sign a pile of cooperation agreements with Iran's Arab lackey. The Foreign Ministry didn't even have a chance to write apologetic talking points explaining that brazen move before Syria announced it was entering a military alliance with Turkey and would be holding a joint military exercise with the Turkish military. Speechless in the wake of Turkey's move to hold military maneuvers with its enemy just two days after it canceled joint training with Israel, Jerusalem could think of no mitigating explanation for the move.”

In other words, a NATO member state has signed a military cooperation agreement with an Iranian puppet state. It's as if the Dutch had signed an military cooperation agreement with Hungary during the height of the Cold War.

This is a shocking development, to say the least, with terrible implications for our security.

0’s abandonment of the Czechs and the Poles at least garnered a lot of press comment. This is equally bad, and the MSM is AWOL.

8 posted on 10/16/2009 2:58:36 PM PDT by mojito
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Glick tends to exaggerate.


9 posted on 10/16/2009 2:59:13 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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0’s abandonment of the Czechs and the Poles at least garnered a lot of press comment. This is equally bad, and the MSM is AWOL.

This is disturbing.

10 posted on 10/16/2009 3:02:03 PM PDT by paulycy (Why pay HIGHER TAXES for WORSE healthcare?)
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Turkey’s shift from ally to enemy became evident at the time Bush ordered the invasion of Iraq.

Not only did the Generals refuse to allow the Airborn Division to attack Saddam’s northern front through Turkey, they deliberately obfuscated and delayed, so this entire division, which had been counted on for the invasion, was still off the coast of Turkey when the invasion took place. And it took days to ship them around and into Iraq from the South.

That prolongued the war, and it allowed Saddam’s army in the north to disperse when military defeat was obvious, throw away their uniforms, and then cause months of trouble afterward as irregulars. In other words, the Turks didn’t just refuse us passage, they did their utmost to undermine and sabotage the invasion of Iraq.

Up till then, the Generals had followed the secular principles of Kemel Attaturk. But their actions then showed that they had thrown their hand over to the Islamists. And that’s basically been the case ever since, although they have sometimes tried to conceal it. Very unfortunate.


11 posted on 10/16/2009 3:08:54 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Formally ask that they remove themselves from NATO or remove them otherwise.


12 posted on 10/16/2009 3:14:57 PM PDT by cranked
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Agreed. But at the time of the Iraq invasion, the Turks at least made a pretense of being circumspect regarding their real allegiances.

Taking a cue from this White House and its nonstop parade of cringing weakness, the Turks no longer have any such qualms.

13 posted on 10/16/2009 3:15:27 PM PDT by mojito
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To: DoughtyOne

My BIL is a Turkish moslem. He’s been a US citizen for 30 years. He’s not religious at all. Never heard him utter anything even vaguely religious. But,,, mention the Jews,,, and he goes ballistic!


14 posted on 10/16/2009 3:33:18 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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15 posted on 10/16/2009 3:38:26 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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And to think they being sold F-35s.


16 posted on 10/16/2009 4:06:14 PM PDT by Always Independent
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I agree with your views on this. I would go further to state that if Turkey wants the relationship with Iran, then fine. Cut it out of NATO and part as friends. There isn’t a chance in hell I’d allow them to do both these things. Iran or us Turkey. Make your choice.


17 posted on 10/16/2009 7:18:17 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Deficit spending, trade deficits, unsecure mortages, worthless paper... ... not a problem. Oh yeah?)
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What’s more, Turkey must have gotten the green light from Obama and Co. It’s been a lot more level headed than this, and I suspect Obama’s B.S. stance is what spurred this.


18 posted on 10/16/2009 7:19:16 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Deficit spending, trade deficits, unsecure mortages, worthless paper... ... not a problem. Oh yeah?)
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To: Cicero

ping


19 posted on 10/16/2009 8:03:54 PM PDT by Soul Citizen
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

The people in the region are amazingly anti-Jewish.

Knowing the history fairly well, it’s amazing the hatred that exists.

I can see why the Jews would hate the Arabs too. Still, it doesn’t seem to be that same universal hatred to me.

People have reasons for the way they see things, whether reasoned or not.

It’s too bad really.


20 posted on 10/16/2009 10:42:27 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Deficit spending, trade deficits, unsecure mortages, worthless paper... ... not a problem. Oh yeah?)
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