Posted on 10/20/2009 4:03:16 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing
ORLANDO, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - A proposed state guideline for dealing with an influenza pandemic is causing quite a stir.
The Florida Department of Health is proposing that health care providers, notably hospitals, pull the plug on the most critically-ill patients in order to treat "healthier" patients.
Let me count the ways.............
“The plan would also offer immunity from legal action to health workers deciding who get treatment and who doesn’t when complying with an executive order.”
So, you can kill someone, you just can’t question them aggressively......figures.
Very similar to S2028 here in Massachusetts, which passed 40-0 earlier this year. Recently the house passed a much watered-down version.
Do you have a link on that S2028?
Thanks
Do you have a link on that S2028?
Thanks
I don’t care how sick I get, I’ll be better off at home in my own bed than under the watchful eye of liberal hospital administrators eager to use their new euthanasia equipment.
This is just creepy. How would you know whether that syringe contains medicine to make you well or a cocktail to put you down?
I have always been one to be skepticle about God and miracles—or intervention if one prefers. But sometimes, like now, I really do wonder. Up to this Florida death choice guidance memo, the idea of death panels was acedemic to Americans. Now, just as Onada and his crowd of angry commies are about to cram Onadacare down our throats, along comes Florida.
The Marxist crowd has three obsessions—power, death (including abortion) and deviant sex.
“It’s a reality and something we call triage something faced almost on a daily basis for example in the military where they have to make decision because of a shortage of supplies,” said Dr. James Orlowski, Ethics Chair for University Community Hospital of Tampa.”
HUH? This doesn’t sound right. I have never heard of the military triaging medical care because of ‘shortages of supplies’. This guy sounds like a liberal hack. Can any of our FReeper military folks enlighten us a bit better? We have saved a whole lotta lives on the battlefield..more than in any other war. This just struck me as a curious statement.
The way toward this was paved by Terry Schiavo’s case.
"It's a reality and something we call triage something faced almost on a daily basis for example in the military where they have to make decision because of a shortage of supplies," said Dr. James Orlowski, Ethics Chair for University Community Hospital of Tampa.Most folks just don't mow about "triage'. Ask your Dr about it but get ready for a weird look on his face.
if you're ever in a bad multi-car accident you'll find out how it works. Hopefully for the best.
You beat me to it. Between Greer and Felos, it’s a wonder why any elderly are still moving to Florida. Stump a toe there and you’re marked.
This is going on under the administration of “electable” Gov Crist? What does this say about the judgment of people he appoints? Pretty scary.
Their link to the .pdf isn’t working can anyone find it???
In fact, given a pandemic, doctors will have to face the situation in which, for example, he has two patients in need but only one ventilator. Generally we want doctors to make the decision based on the particulars of the situation and we think whatever the decision, unless criminally motivated, there should be no basis for prosecution.
The situation changes though, when it is framed as Obamacare picking and choosing who should be denied care, and issuing essentially an (unneeded) pardon for MDs. Nothing changes except the idea that the decisions are characterized as the province of government. This is the camel's nose under the tent.
One of the reasons they will get away with it is the fear generated among medics by the excessive prosecution of doctors from the Katrina cesspool.
BTT
“The Marxist crowd has three obsessions—power, death (including abortion) and deviant sex.”
Death, except in the case of the legal application of the death penalty to the most awful criminals.
Lets be real folks. There are a limited number of ICU resources. More will not magically appear. If we had a REAL crisis, hard decisions would have to be made.
When I started in Medicine in the 1980’s, the rule of thumb was no one over 80 was placed in the ICU. We just didn’t do it. There were far fewer ICU beds and it was felt that long term it made little or no difference in long tern ( 1 year +) outcome. If we get into a crisis that type of thinking will be back.
As to the military, as a former AF Flight Surgeon, I can assure you Triage, is ALWAYS a consideration in combat. Up to now we haven’t had to face the issue because our recent wars have been so limited. But we ALWAYS train for the “big one” where casualties outstrip the resources available. And that means some people get sent to the back of the line.
Say it loud...say it proud...DEATH PANELS!
I think it’s here, somewhere, on this page but I don’t have time to fully check which pdf is the correct one(the link on the Fox page has some extra garble): http://www.doh.state.fl.us/demo/php/index.html
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