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Pope's gambit could see 1,000 quit Church of England
Telegraph UK ^ | 10/20/09 | Ruth Gledhill

Posted on 10/20/2009 8:37:36 PM PDT by pissant

As many as 1,000 priests could quit the Church of England and thousands more may leave churches in America and Australia under bold proposals to welcome Anglicans to Rome.

Entire parishes and even dioceses could be tempted to defect after Pope Benedict XVI’s decision to offer a legal structure to Anglicans joining the Roman Catholic Church.

His decree, issued yesterday, is a serious blow to attempts by the Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr Rowan Williams, to save the Anglican Communion from further fragmentation and threatens to wreck decades of ecumenical dialogue.

Dr Williams was notified formally only last weekend by the Vatican and looked uncomfortable at a joint press conference with the Archbishop of Westminster, the Most Rev Vincent Nichols, to announce the plan.

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A little payback after 500 years later.
1 posted on 10/20/2009 8:37:37 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

The Church of England is not a real church anyways.

As much as I disagree with the Catholics, this would be a big improvement. IF they have some integrity.


2 posted on 10/20/2009 8:39:09 PM PDT by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: pissant
gambit? yeah, that's the word. it's like freaking poker, isn't it?

well, maybe it is a little like a crapshoot...

3 posted on 10/20/2009 8:42:10 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Fearing for the republic 24/7.)
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To: pissant

Catholic bump.


4 posted on 10/20/2009 8:45:54 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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“threatens to wreck decades of ecumenical dialogue”

Yup, the Pope is THREATENING. Why? Because He is offering a path for Christians to leave the corruption of the Angelican Church.

No bias here. None at all. /spit


5 posted on 10/20/2009 8:46:08 PM PDT by piytar (This tag deleted by the Ministry of Truth. Love Big Brother. Or else!)
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“threatens to wreck decades of ecumenical dialogue”

Yup, the Pope is THREATENING. Why? Because He is offering a path for Christians to leave the corruption of the Angelican Church.

No bias here. None at all. /spit


6 posted on 10/20/2009 8:46:10 PM PDT by piytar (This tag deleted by the Ministry of Truth. Love Big Brother. Or else!)
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To: pissant

Welcome home to our Anglican and Episcopal brother and sisters!


7 posted on 10/20/2009 8:46:30 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: pissant

I don’t suppose we could work out a trade? Our liberals for their conservatives?


8 posted on 10/20/2009 8:46:32 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Hear us, O Bama: Mmm, mmm, mmm.)
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To: pissant

Right after our church left the Episcopal Church, our Bishop left for the Catholic Church. This is going to snowball fast.


9 posted on 10/20/2009 8:47:56 PM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG 49) "Freedom's Fortress")
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“Wrecking dialogue”???

Methinks the Archbishop of Canterbury has not been speaking for quite a few Anglicans/Episcopalians for a while now...


10 posted on 10/20/2009 8:49:20 PM PDT by Infidel Heather (In God I trust, not the Government.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

That would be perfect.


11 posted on 10/20/2009 8:49:22 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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and threatens to wreck decades of ecumenical dialogue

When the ecumenical dialogue started, the Church of England looked like one of the best prospects to talk with. There were a few kooks, like the Red Dean of Canterbury, but for the most part they were closer to the Catholic Church than many other Protestant denominations.

No longer. There's no way on earth that they can agree on any of the basics, when the Episcopal leadership keeps moving further and further away from basic Christianity. So, this makes sense. Offer shelter and help to those Anglicans who still want to be traditional Christians. It's not as if the Anglican leadership wants these people anyway. I have a friend who was an Episcopal clergyman. His bishop in Connecticut kicked him out because he refused to preach in favor of gay rights.

12 posted on 10/20/2009 8:49:27 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: pissant

Outstanding. The grandfathering in of married priests is a master stroke. Great move from the REAL “Big Papi”.


13 posted on 10/20/2009 8:49:45 PM PDT by montag813 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. -George Orwell)
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Now why, oh why, are Anglicans/Episcopalians fleeing the Archbishop of Canterbury and are reuniting with the Catholic Church?

Who can offer any explanation for mysterious phenomenon?


14 posted on 10/20/2009 8:50:43 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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Badly muffed by the usually capable Gledhill. She appears to value "decades of ecumenical dialog" which have availed nothing, more than the accomplishment at a stroke of an ecumenical triumph. Sort of like opposing MidEast peace because its achievement would mean the destruction of the "Peace Process."
15 posted on 10/20/2009 8:51:44 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard (Truth--The liberal's Kryptonite)
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To: GeronL
As much as I disagree with the Catholics, this would be a big improvement. IF they have some integrity.

Hey I'm Jewish, and I love my Christian brothers and sisters, and am rooting for the Pope. Any advance of Christianity against secularism is a victory for all who treasure liberty.

16 posted on 10/20/2009 8:52:15 PM PDT by montag813 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. -George Orwell)
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“threatens to wreck decades of ecumenical dialogue”

No, it offers a conclusion to the dialogue. Without the work done in previous decades, this offer would not be possible. Without this resolution, the previous dialogue would have been meaningless.

Realistically, the choice in Anglicanism is not liberal or conservative Anglicanism. Over the long term, it is rejoining Catholicism, or dissolution into nothing.

17 posted on 10/20/2009 8:53:32 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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I don’t suppose we could work out a trade? Our liberals for their conservatives?

LOL! Start with all those completely fake Pretend Catholics like Pelosi, Kerry, Biden, ad nauseum.

18 posted on 10/20/2009 8:54:18 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: pissant

No I’m sure the Pope has noticed how many have already came over in the last few years and just wanted to let the rest know they were welcome if they wanted to make the switch.


19 posted on 10/20/2009 8:54:34 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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That would be perfect.

Perfect would have been Yoko stepping in front of John.

20 posted on 10/20/2009 8:56:00 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Hear us, O Bama: Mmm, mmm, mmm.)
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