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Despite Its Woes, California's Dream Still Lives (barf alert)
Time Magazine ^ | 10/23/09 | Michael Grunwald

Posted on 10/24/2009 4:11:53 PM PDT by cold666pack

California, you may have heard, is an apocalyptic mess of raging wildfires, soaring unemployment, mass foreclosures and political paralysis. It's dysfunctional. It's ungovernable. Its bond rating is barely above junk. It's so broke, it had to hand out IOUs while its leaders debated how many prisoners to release and parks to close. Nevada aired ads mocking California's business climate to lure its entrepreneurs. The media portray California as a noir fantasyland of overcrowded schools, perpetual droughts, celebrity breakdowns, illegal immigration, hellish congestion and general malaise, captured in headlines like "Meltdown on the Ocean" and "California's Wipeout Economy" and "Will California Become America's First Failed State?" Actually, it won't.

Ignore the California whinery. (snip)

California has long inspired its own premature obituaries. The 1855 book The Land of Gold dismissed it as "lawless, penniless and powerless." TIME published a woe-is-California issue called "The Endangered Dream" in 1991 after the aerospace industry collapsed. But even with 12% unemployment, California still has an enviably young and productive workforce.

(Excerpt) Read more at time.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; ca2010; california; greenjobs; grunwald; prop13; taxes
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Delusional article about California basically intimating that all those complaining about california are crazy.
1 posted on 10/24/2009 4:11:54 PM PDT by cold666pack
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To: cold666pack

Deport the illegals and it might be a nice state again.


2 posted on 10/24/2009 4:15:57 PM PDT by nj26 (Say NO to Socialism! Government is NOT the Answer.)
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To: nj26

25% of California’s population is illegal.


3 posted on 10/24/2009 4:19:53 PM PDT by Ronbo1948
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To: cold666pack

1. city, county, and state union pensions are running the state broke.

2. trial lawyers

3. illegals.

btw, i saw a u.s. border official running after an illegal at home depotty yesterday.


4 posted on 10/24/2009 4:21:08 PM PDT by ken21 (i am not voting for a rino-progressive.)
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To: Ronbo1948

“25% of California’s population is illegal.”

Any guesses on how much of the state’s taxes they pay? 5% maybe? That would solve the fiscal crisis.


5 posted on 10/24/2009 4:23:10 PM PDT by nj26 (Say NO to Socialism! Government is NOT the Answer.)
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To: nj26
LAPD most wanted

LA County most wanted
6 posted on 10/24/2009 4:28:53 PM PDT by ruination
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To: cold666pack
"Will California Become America's First Failed State?" Actually, it won't.

Sorry, slimeballs at Slime Mag, it already is.

Crapifornia is already in the position that it cannot possibly repay it's bond debt, and it's tax structure is regressive to the point that EVERY increase in taxes causes a reduction in revenues.

The land of Fruits and nuts is already off the cliff, with inevitable bankruptcy and default ahead.

The California dream is now citizens dreaming that they will be able to scrape enough together to leave the state.

7 posted on 10/24/2009 4:29:26 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: cold666pack

Despite all its problems, California still is a great place to start a successful small business.... You just have to start with a successful large business.


8 posted on 10/24/2009 4:42:10 PM PDT by arista
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To: arista

“Despite all its problems, California still is a great place to
start a successful small business.... You just have to start with
a successful large business.”

How to make get a million dollars worth of stock: start out with
TEN MILLION DOLLARS.

I don’t necessarily subscribe to that old quip about Wall Street.
But having lived in West Los Angeles, with Henry Waxman as, guffaw,
my representative, I do subscribe to your view on the business environment
in California.
But Californians (in the main) get the government and failed economy
they deserve.
As they keep voting for morons and didn’t take to the streets
with pitchforks sometime around the Enron problems (that a Texas legislator
and dentist foretold when he visited California to study their
utility de-regulation model.)


9 posted on 10/24/2009 4:48:41 PM PDT by VOA
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To: cold666pack
overcrowded schools, perpetual droughts, celebrity breakdowns, illegal immigration, hellish congestion and general malaise,

That describes our situation very well.

10 posted on 10/24/2009 4:51:28 PM PDT by BenLurkin (Brave amateurs....they do their part.)
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To: cold666pack

LOL! No wonder TIME is dying.
How much excuse-making for failed Democrat policies and socialist welfare states can readers take?


11 posted on 10/24/2009 4:55:40 PM PDT by Lancey Howard (Go, Phillies!)
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To: cold666pack

I’m guessing this author Michael Grunwald is somehow related to Democrat operative Mandy Grunwald?


12 posted on 10/24/2009 5:02:22 PM PDT by Lancey Howard (Go, Phillies!)
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To: BenLurkin

My niece lives in nor Cal.
She makes a very average white collar salary, and has to live like a pauper to remain there.
Loves the climate and scenery compared to our native Great Lakes, but to me the price is too high to pay.


13 posted on 10/24/2009 5:08:03 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Lancey Howard

Hmmm... dont know, will have to look into this. But instincts tell me you’re probly right!


14 posted on 10/24/2009 5:11:30 PM PDT by cold666pack (Sometimes you gotta kick the darkness as hard as you can till the light shines through)
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To: arista
It's also an unparalleled engine of innovation, the mecca of high tech, biotech and now clean tech. In 2008, California's wipeout economy attracted more venture capital than the rest of the nation combined.

Don't believe this...We just took a walk and were chased by a pack of wild dogs, that were abandoned by their owners when they fled the wild fires and earthquakes...

We're packing now for Uncle Bob and Betty Lou's place in Kansas.

15 posted on 10/24/2009 5:12:57 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: cold666pack

Sorry, not buying it. The companies mentioned are Google, Apple, Hewlett-Packard, Facebook, Twitter, Disney, Cisco, Intel, eBay, YouTube, MySpace, the Gap. Of these, only Apple, HP, Cisco, and Intel produce tangible products (or Disney, if you include movies), and few if any are produced in California. Cisco is the youngest of these companies, and none is less than 25 years old. The biggest employers in “Silicon Valley” are Google, Yahoo, and eBay— all service companies......

hh


16 posted on 10/24/2009 5:13:03 PM PDT by hoosier hick (Note to RINOs: We need a choice, not an echo....Barry Goldwater)
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To: Lancey Howard
I’m guessing this author Michael Grunwald is somehow related to Democrat operative Mandy Grunwald?

Nope. Mandy Grunwald is the wife of Matt Cooper, a writer for Time Magazine.

17 posted on 10/24/2009 5:14:07 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: nascarnation

I’m in the same boat, moved here 7 years ago from the mistake on the lake, for the weather, and job opportunities. Now, we have 15% unemployment and I may be working at starbucks soon if I cant find another decent paying job. But even when I did have a decent job paying 6K a month, 1/2 goes to taxes, another 20% to insurance and you’re left with chump change to live on. At least the wine’s cheap here.


18 posted on 10/24/2009 5:14:53 PM PDT by cold666pack (Sometimes you gotta kick the darkness as hard as you can till the light shines through)
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To: nascarnation

“She makes a very average white collar salary, and has to live like
a pauper to remain there.
Loves the climate and scenery compared to our native Great Lakes,...”

Reminds me of one of my roommates (at a conservative Christian
university in Oklahoma) that talked about the employment aspects of
working for Fed/State environmental governmental agencies.

He said that he knew a friend that went to work in Colorado (for the
EPA or state enviro agency, I don’t recall).
But the supervisor calmed any complaints about salary by saying to
new hires at their interview:
“If you don’t think the salary is sufficient...look out the window and
see the rest of your compensation!”.


19 posted on 10/24/2009 5:15:38 PM PDT by VOA
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To: nascarnation
Loves the climate and scenery compared to our native Great Lakes, but to me the price is too high to pay.

i'm a Cali native... i do love the weather... the scenery... the access to the great outdoors--which we enjoy often... Capitola is so beautiful... we meet people from all over the world there... Yosemite is breath-taking... Santa Barbara offers great shopping... there's everything from San Diego to Pine Crest and Burney Falls... Carmel, Pacific Grove... etc., etc... and yes--in the last couple of years, our lifestyle has changed dramatically... my parents are in their mid to late eighties, so i don't see us leaving at this time... but we get tempted... i just don't know where we would go...

20 posted on 10/24/2009 5:15:45 PM PDT by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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