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Texas mom fights law that lets kids watch porn
arstarnet.com ^ | 10.30.2009 | John McFarland

Posted on 10/30/2009 12:29:10 PM PDT by wolfcreek

A 1970s-era Texas law that allows parents to show “harmful material” to their children has come under fire after a prosecutor said he couldn’t file charges against a man accused of forcing his 8- and 9-year-old daughters to watch hardcore online pornography.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: buckner; crystalbuckner; culturewar; custodydispute; divorce; libertarian; parenting; porn; pornification; pornography; pornographyintexas
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"The law apparently was meant to protect the privacy of parents who wanted to teach children about sex education, but it states clearly that parents can’t be prosecuted for showing “harmful material” to their children."
1 posted on 10/30/2009 12:29:10 PM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: wolfcreek

What he did (if he did it) was wrong and screwed up, but we don’t need any more laws about what we can and can’t do with our children.


2 posted on 10/30/2009 12:30:21 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (Raise the fanged and warlike mistress, stern, impassive, weaponed mistress...)
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To: wolfcreek

The problem is when big brother gets a foot in the door to define what is appropriate, it opens up a whole can of worms. While the core of the issue is pretty sick- (what parent in their right mind would do that?) the way big brother works, next week, someone will define classical art as pornographic.


3 posted on 10/30/2009 12:33:17 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: LongElegantLegs

There is only one reason I can imagine to get your kids watching hardcore porn and that is to desensitize them to sex.

get the idea?


4 posted on 10/30/2009 12:33:27 PM PDT by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com .... I am a rogue nobody. One of millions.)
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To: wolfcreek

It won’t be a minute before some of FR’s finest libertarians show up and state this is fine.

After all - we don’t need no nanny-state gubmint interfering in our lives, right?


5 posted on 10/30/2009 12:34:08 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I am Legend)
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To: mnehring; LongElegantLegs

Oops - I see (refer to post # 5) they’re already here.


6 posted on 10/30/2009 12:35:41 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I am Legend)
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To: GeronL

Yes, I know that pedophiles use porn as a jumping-off point. Obviously this is a huge red flag, and as you can see the kids’ visits with Dad are now supervised. Family Services is dealing with it. It’s not like they are allowing him to get away with this scott-free, they just can’t put him in jail for it, and I think that’s as it should be.


7 posted on 10/30/2009 12:36:59 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (Raise the fanged and warlike mistress, stern, impassive, weaponed mistress...)
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To: Responsibility2nd

:->

What can I say? The only difference is I don’t state it is fine, just discussing the ‘slippery slope’.


8 posted on 10/30/2009 12:37:17 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Responsibility2nd

I’m a libertarian? Have we met?


9 posted on 10/30/2009 12:37:50 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (Raise the fanged and warlike mistress, stern, impassive, weaponed mistress...)
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To: LongElegantLegs

Sure.

Prolly on one of the many “Surrender on the WOD” threads.


10 posted on 10/30/2009 12:39:45 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I am Legend)
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To: wolfcreek

Unbelievable! Leave the law out of it. A grandfather or uncle will know what to do with this pervert.


11 posted on 10/30/2009 12:44:28 PM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Best thing about Cash for Clunkers is that 90% of the Obama bumper stickers are now off the road.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
I doubt it.
I have five homeschooled kids, far-right religious opinions, and guns. ANY legislation that controls how parents interact with their kids will eventually affect me.
12 posted on 10/30/2009 12:47:41 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (Raise the fanged and warlike mistress, stern, impassive, weaponed mistress...)
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To: LongElegantLegs

I would think the sexual abuse laws would apply in this case.


13 posted on 10/30/2009 12:48:24 PM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Best thing about Cash for Clunkers is that 90% of the Obama bumper stickers are now off the road.)
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To: wolfcreek

The accusation came from the divorced wife, after she took the kids to a counselor. The kids could very well have been coached. The mother’s word is suspect at best, when you research the story and find out that the mother originally lost custody of the kids, which is basically unheard of in TX. She had to have lost custody for a reason and now, as stated by the mother, she is seeking publicity. I’m also not surprised that CPS is going after the dad full bore. TX CPS has a rampant history of crucifying the father even if he is proven innocent or is proven to be the better parent.


14 posted on 10/30/2009 12:50:54 PM PDT by TXDuke
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"The law apparently was meant to protect the privacy of parents who wanted to teach children about sex education, but it states clearly that parents can’t be prosecuted for showing “harmful material” to their children."

I think that's the issue. Assuming this happens as is being reported, the guy is a complete dirt bag who will probably end up molesting somebody's kid. I'm glad they're supervising him.

15 posted on 10/30/2009 12:52:29 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (Raise the fanged and warlike mistress, stern, impassive, weaponed mistress...)
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To: wolfcreek

How dare a parent show his children porn. Only the school teachers are allowed to do that.


16 posted on 10/30/2009 1:01:21 PM PDT by sportutegrl (If liberals could do math, they would be conservatives.)
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To: LongElegantLegs

Well I guess if that’s the case then I can’t agree. He is either innocent of wrong doing because it is not against the law and therefore should require no supervision OR
what he did was wrong and the law is wrong for not punishing it and the law needs to change. I don’t think we can have it both ways.
I too am concerned about laws that affect parent and child relationships. Obviously I homeschool my 3. However, I would be MORE concerned about being supervised for something that wasn’t against the law than being punished for something that was against the law. \
It is a much slippier slope than knowing what the law and the consequences of breaking that law are.
Am I making myself clear? I have the flu and am not clear headed lol!


17 posted on 10/30/2009 1:03:34 PM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Best thing about Cash for Clunkers is that 90% of the Obama bumper stickers are now off the road.)
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To: TXDuke

Ping to 17. I am concerned that (assuming the accusations are true) even though he did nothing wrong under the law that CPS still has the authority to do anything to him. I would rather see the law changed than to give authority to CPS to decide outside the law who needs supervised visits with their children.


18 posted on 10/30/2009 1:06:23 PM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Best thing about Cash for Clunkers is that 90% of the Obama bumper stickers are now off the road.)
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

I think I understand! I should point out that it’s CPS that is monitoring him, not the cops. I assume they would be involved with the family anyway, because of the custody case, so it’s a question of whether or not he’s a fit guardian, not whether or not he should go to jail.
If he did make them watch porn he could lose custody, but not be charged with a crime.

It’s sad that we have to look at every little thing and ask “How will this be used against me?”, but that’s the America we live in.


19 posted on 10/30/2009 1:09:22 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (Raise the fanged and warlike mistress, stern, impassive, weaponed mistress...)
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To: mnehring

A parent who wants to prime his daughters for later action. grrrrrr


20 posted on 10/30/2009 1:10:13 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (Froggie sez water nice and warm)
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