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Schools Are Where Stimulus Saved Jobs, New Data Show [Obama's Teachers' Unions Jobs Saved!]
NYTimes ^ | October 30th 2009

Posted on 10/30/2009 3:04:58 PM PDT by Steelfish

Schools Are Where Stimulus Saved Jobs, New Data Show

By MICHAEL COOPER October 30, 2009

The best symbol of the $787 billion federal stimulus program turns out not to be of a construction worker in a hard hat, but rather of a classroom teacher saved from a layoff.

On Friday, the Obama administration released the most detailed information yet on the jobs created by the stimulus. Preliminary data showed that of the 640,239 jobs created or saved, 325,000, or more than half, were jobs in education that school districts claimed were saved when stimulus money averted the need for layoffs. While the stimulus was initially sold in large part as a public works program, only about 80,000 of the jobs that were claimed Friday were in construction.

The figures do not include jobs indirectly created by the money pumped into the economy through tax cuts, unemployment benefits and aid to states for Medicaid. If those were included, the administration estimates, the tally would rise to more than 1 million jobs saved or created.

Of course, counting jobs that were saved can be a squishier proposition than counting jobs that were created. And while teachers are being laid off in some areas — and there would undoubtedly have been more layoffs without the stimulus money — it is difficult to say for sure how many teachers would actually have been laid off without the stimulus money.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cooper; education; publicschools; stimulus; teachers

1 posted on 10/30/2009 3:04:59 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: bamahead; metmom; Tired of Taxes; wintertime; ExTexasRedhead; rabscuttle385; Impy; ...

So this is what our tax dollars were spent on? You can bet that little of it will be used to benefit the students, who would be better off not being there at all anyway.


2 posted on 10/30/2009 3:06:47 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Liberal sacred cows make great hamburger)
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To: Steelfish

Gee! That is just great. < /sacrasm>


3 posted on 10/30/2009 3:09:16 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Steelfish

Obama smoke and mirrors.


4 posted on 10/30/2009 3:11:08 PM PDT by bmwcyle (We need more Joe Wilson's. OBAMA is ACORN ACORN is OBAMA)
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To: Steelfish

Too bad he paved the road to give their retirement to the UAW. I didn’t catch that in the story, did I miss it?


5 posted on 10/30/2009 3:11:52 PM PDT by enduserindy (Conservative Dead Head)
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To: Steelfish

More good money thrown on a failed system!!!!


6 posted on 10/30/2009 3:12:42 PM PDT by wbones8765 ("Give me liberty or give me death")
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To: Steelfish

I am a conservative high school history teacher, yes there are some of us, and my district hired two new administrative positions with the money while laying off one teacher in our foreign language dept. The “Obama money” as the staff calls it runs out next year and the local taxpayer will have to pick up the tab for the new administrative positions. You can bet they will be stuck with it “for the children”.


7 posted on 10/30/2009 3:19:58 PM PDT by DeusExMachina05 (I will not go into Dhimmitude quietly.)
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To: Steelfish
Nine months on and it still feel like this nation is sleepwalking in a nightmare. We have become so numb that we can't even get outraged anymore by all this obamination.
8 posted on 10/30/2009 3:23:07 PM PDT by parisa
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To: Steelfish
Am I reading this right? 325,000 teachers would have been laid off without porkulus money? And the Slimes is reporting this with a straight face. OK. Just checking.
9 posted on 10/30/2009 3:31:27 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard (Truth--The liberal's Kryptonite)
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To: Steelfish
barack hussein obama...mmm...mmmm...mmm

See, you sing praises to the messiah and he bestows his blessings upon you.

He has to keep these people in place to carry out his indocrination on the young skulls full of mush...

More evidence that the Kenyan is not "failing" at all, but accomplishing exactly what he intended to do.

Tea Time America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
10 posted on 10/30/2009 3:53:55 PM PDT by FrankR (To Congress: You cram it down our throats in '09, We'll shove it up your ass in '10!)
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To: Steelfish

Probably in the nick of time, too. I’m pretty sure that local school district taxes (they’re based on property taxes in PA) took a big hit when they came due in September.


11 posted on 10/30/2009 4:11:04 PM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: Clintonfatigued

‘saved’ jobs is a hoax. No one can prove it was ‘saved’. How about Obama ‘saves’ the 500 thousand that will lose their job next month!


12 posted on 10/30/2009 4:14:51 PM PDT by Freddd (CNN is not credible.)
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To: Steelfish

A little gamesmanship with the numbers. For example, Ohio received ‘stimulus’ money that was used to balance its budget. Since they allocated ‘stimulus’ money to education, as opposed to something else, education jobs were “saved”. Accounting magic.


13 posted on 10/30/2009 4:27:55 PM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: wbones8765

Stimulus money saving teaching jobs is a joke. From what I can see, there are hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of government jobs of all types which are hanging on by a thread all over the country. How many govt jobs are safe in LasVegas? California? Michigan or anywhere in the midwest? New York? The list can go on and on. Stimulus money may save a few this year, but what about next year?

On top of this, consider the ridiculously rich and corrupt public pension plans which will never meet all of their obligations. These plans can either be renegotiated now or we’re going to be watching a series of mighty crashes all over the country. I know that property taxpayers, younger workers, or immigrant workers are not going to be able to handle a fraction of the obligations. The more that government tries to squeeze taxpayers, the worse things are going to get. Spreading the money around sounds great to non-thinking people (Obama worshippers), but it will wreck our country first. Consider that wrecking our country may be just what Obama may actually be trying to do.


14 posted on 10/30/2009 4:35:02 PM PDT by Sam Clements
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To: Steelfish

Communists, each and every one.


15 posted on 10/30/2009 4:54:11 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: Clintonfatigued; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; ...
Not really sure I really buy these numbers. I know several (GOOD) Gubermint school teachers who are un-employed now.



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16 posted on 10/30/2009 5:57:51 PM PDT by bamahead (Avoid self-righteousness like the devil- nothing is so self-blinding. -- B.H. Liddell Hart)
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To: bamahead

In these matters government can only transfer wealth, minus the cost of governmnet administration.

So every job “saved” means wealth got transferred from somewhere else, wealth that couldn’t get used somewhere else.

How many jobs were destroyed in order to “save” the teachers’ jobs?


17 posted on 10/31/2009 12:54:39 PM PDT by secretagent
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