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University of East Anglia U-turn in climate change row [agreed to publish their figures in full..]
Telegraph.co.uk ^

Posted on 11/28/2009 1:22:23 PM PST by Sub-Driver

University of East Anglia U-turn in climate change row Leading British scientists at the University of East Anglia, who were accused of manipulating climate change data, have agreed to publish their figures in full.

By Robert Mendick Published: 8:55PM GMT 28 Nov 2009

David Holland is seeking prosecutions against some of Britain's most eminent academics for allegedly holding back information in breach of disclosure laws.

The U-turn by the university follows a week of controversy after the emergence of hundreds of leaked emails, "stolen" by hackers and published online, triggered claims that the academics had massaged statistics.

In a statement welcomed by climate change sceptics, the university said it would make all the data accessible as soon as possible, once its Climatic Research Unit (CRU) had negotiated its release from a range of non-publication agreements.

The publication will be carried out in collaboration with the Met Office Hadley Centre. The full data, when disclosed, is certain to be scrutinised by both sides in the fierce debate.

A grandfather with a training in electrical engineering dating back more than 40 years emerged from the leaked emails as a leading climate sceptic trying to bring down the scientific establishment on global warming.

David Holland, who describes himself as a David taking on the Goliath that is the prevailing scientific consensus, is seeking prosecutions against some of Britain's most eminent academics for allegedly holding back information in breach of disclosure laws.

Mr Holland, of Northampton, complained to the Information Commissioner's Office (ICO) last week after the leaked emails included several Freedom of Information requests he had submitted to the CRU, and scientists' private responses to them.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: climategate
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Whoa........
1 posted on 11/28/2009 1:22:24 PM PST by Sub-Driver
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"The publication will be carried out in collaboration with the Met Office Hadley Centre"

I wouldn't trust either organization with determining day versus night.

2 posted on 11/28/2009 1:25:06 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Sub-Driver

Raw data, or lightly cooked?


3 posted on 11/28/2009 1:25:44 PM PST by Interesting Times (For the truth about "swift boating" see ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: Paladin2

I’m with you. Anything they release ain’t worth spit.


4 posted on 11/28/2009 1:25:58 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: Sub-Driver

Which should have been happening all along.


5 posted on 11/28/2009 1:31:24 PM PST by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: Kirkwood

Hey, stop denigrating spit!


6 posted on 11/28/2009 1:32:38 PM PST by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Sub-Driver

“University of East Anglia U-turn in climate change row [agreed to publish their figures in full..]”

LOL...as if you could believe anything coming from these hacks.


7 posted on 11/28/2009 1:33:25 PM PST by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: Sub-Driver
Anything coming out of University of East Anglia will be tainted. Not worth a damn since the data will probably be false or changed to try to make them creditable.
8 posted on 11/28/2009 1:37:10 PM PST by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: newfreep
WaPo published this cartoon today - perhaps the media is recognizing the fraud can no longer be covered-up.


9 posted on 11/28/2009 1:37:38 PM PST by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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Mr Holland, who graduated with an external degree in electrical engineering from London University in 1966 before going on to run his own businesses, told The Sunday Telegraph: "It's like David versus Goliath. Thanks to these leaked emails a lot of little people can begin to make some impact on this monolithic entity that is the climate change lobby."

He added: "These guys called climate scientists have not done any more physics or chemistry than I did. A lifetime in engineering gives you a very good antenna. It also cures people of any self belief they cannot be wrong. You clear up a lot of messes during a lifetime in engineering. I could be wrong on global warming – I know that – but the guys on the other side don't believe they can ever be wrong."

I LOVE this guy! Carry on Mr. Holland.

10 posted on 11/28/2009 1:38:13 PM PST by BigBobber
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To: Sub-Driver


11 posted on 11/28/2009 1:40:00 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Sub-Driver

And of note is that we are reading about this in a UK newspaper instead of a US Dinosaur Media publication.


12 posted on 11/28/2009 1:41:48 PM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Fred Nerks; ...
Ping!
13 posted on 11/28/2009 1:50:30 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Sub-Driver

bump- but I wouldn’t trust ANYTHING ANYONE at CRU has to say ever again- they’ve proven themselves to be liars of the lowest order- they have probably already deleted ALL the incriminating emails and data, and goen to lengths to cover-up the code which was set to dissallow any refuting results


14 posted on 11/28/2009 1:53:56 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Sub-Driver

” the university said it would make all the data accessible as soon as possible, once its Climatic Research Unit (CRU) had negotiated its release from a range of non-publication agreements.”

Let’s see if I understand this - they will release the data 1) when hell freezes over, or, 2) when they are fully confident that their fake but true data is internally consistent enough not to be easily found out, or, 3) never because the non-publication agreements are with other fraudsters who will, of course, not agree to releasing the data.


15 posted on 11/28/2009 1:54:11 PM PST by rigelkentaurus
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To: abb

This tepid report from the NYT reporting calls for “changes in climate research,” but no serious coverage on the fraud from MSM yet-—no doubt, for fear of disturbing the Copenhagen global heist. Facts and fraud be damned, Copenhagen is proceeding full throttle.

Hacked E-Mail Data Prompts Calls for Changes in Climate Research
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/28/science/earth/28hack.html


16 posted on 11/28/2009 2:07:27 PM PST by thouworm
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To: rigelkentaurus

****once its Climatic Research Unit (CRU) had negotiated its release from a range of non-publication agreements.”**

Contracts with whom??

Using taxpayer funded grants for scientific inquiry and subject to FOI - WTF??????


17 posted on 11/28/2009 2:07:58 PM PST by sodpoodle (Stop spreading the wealth and start spreading the truth.)
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To: Sub-Driver

I wonder who the “hacker” will turn out to be?


18 posted on 11/28/2009 2:10:07 PM PST by GVnana ("Obama is incredibly naive and grossly egotistical." Sarkozy)
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To: Sub-Driver

This bunch should take up printing couterfeit bills. Cut out the need to make stuff up - just print money and stop the nonsense.


19 posted on 11/28/2009 2:19:46 PM PST by sodpoodle (Stop spreading the wealth and start spreading the truth.)
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To: Sub-Driver

For REAL scientists, releasing the data should have been the FIRST thing they did, not the last!


20 posted on 11/28/2009 2:20:05 PM PST by CivilWarguy
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