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Climategate: Imminent Demise of Glaciers Due to … a Typo!
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Posted on 12/01/2009 11:27:22 AM PST by AJKauf
Climategate is now more than the massive fraud of one research institution.
Following the University of East Anglia Climatic Research Unit (CRU) data dump on November 19, many other issues with the political science of climate change are now being let out of the darkness. (See the complete Pajamas Media aggregator and document repository here, and find another PJM exclusive on research misconduct in the climate science community here.)
Most people following the climate change debate are aware that many sources claim that the Himalayan glaciers are disappearing rapidly in fact, that they may disappear by 2035, a mere 25 years from now.
Today, in a guest post at Dr. Roger Pielke Sr.s blog, Dr. Madhav Khandekar discusses this bit of folk science (Dr. Pielke is also the subject of an upcoming PJM interview....
(Excerpt) Read more at pajamasmedia.com ...
TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: hadleycru
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posted on
12/01/2009 11:27:22 AM PST
by
AJKauf
To: AJKauf
MSM still ignoring the story. I can’t find it on the MSM sites. I don’t watch broadcast MSM News. Has anyone seen a story on this?
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posted on
12/01/2009 11:29:10 AM PST
by
truthguy
(Good intentions are not enough!)
To: AJKauf
I know Krauthammer keeps saying it’s speculative and not ‘junk science’ but I think he’s being generous. I don’t find it scientific at all, it’s compeletely unscientific - arriving at a desired conclusion and attempting to prove it with falsified and dubious data.
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posted on
12/01/2009 11:31:25 AM PST
by
americanophile
("For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.")
To: AJKauf
At the present rate of retreat due to global warming, the Himalayan glaciers will disappear by 2350, not 2035 as has been reported.
And, following this logic, since it starts to cool off in the afternoon, by next year, if the cooling continues at the same rate, we should be somewhere near absolute zero.
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posted on
12/01/2009 11:31:36 AM PST
by
MrB
(The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
To: AJKauf
I think that giving the IPCC the benefit of the doubt, that it was a simple error, is way too generous. How about “a deliberate effort to deceive”.....
hh
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posted on
12/01/2009 11:31:43 AM PST
by
hoosier hick
(Note to RINOs: We need a choice, not an echo....Barry Goldwater)
To: AJKauf
I can’t believe this.
The IPCC site has Mikes hockey stick graphs. Plus they have many referrances to HIM as a source of authority.
UNBELIEVABLE.
Now I see why they are fighting so hard.
ME MANN is one of their MAIN authors.
The whole Corrupthagen meeting is a giant FRAUD.
http://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/tar/wg1/pdf/TAR-02.PDF
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posted on
12/01/2009 11:33:04 AM PST
by
Marty62
(former Marty60)
To: AJKauf; OKSooner; honolulugal; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; SideoutFred; ...
Ping me if you find one I've missed.
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posted on
12/01/2009 11:34:40 AM PST
by
xcamel
(The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
To: americanophile
The "science" is just the age old correlation equals causation fallacy. In this case, however, we have actual evidence of the fallacy because we know from the ice core data that one of the two correlating data, CO2 levels, follows the other, temperature. So, something else is driving temps.
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posted on
12/01/2009 11:39:10 AM PST
by
colorado tanker
(What's it all about, Barrrrry? Is it just for the power, you live?)
To: truthguy
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posted on
12/01/2009 11:41:04 AM PST
by
decimon
To: colorado tanker
...by about 600 years I understand. How they can continue to push this, and ignore natural cycles like solar output, variations in the Earth’s orbit, ocean shifts, etc., is beyond me.
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posted on
12/01/2009 11:45:03 AM PST
by
americanophile
("For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.")
To: AJKauf
“estimates 2350 as the year for disappearance of glaciers, but the IPCC authors misread 2350 as 2035 in the Official IPCC documents, WGII 2007 p. 493! “
Misread my foot!
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posted on
12/01/2009 11:53:51 AM PST
by
Bigh4u2
(Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
To: AJKauf
Well well, the typos are unending.
I wonder if Mike had anything to do with this one?
A 315 year MISTAKE, yeah right.
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posted on
12/01/2009 11:56:32 AM PST
by
Marty62
(former Marty60)
To: americanophile
I'm with you, FRiend. The CO2 theory also runs into trouble because of our now decade long cool period, when CO2 levels rose substantially. They offer excuses, but if their theory is correct this wouldn't be happening.
Although, I hasten to add my guess is this cooling is going to be a short term event. At least I hope so, as I'm really not ready for the next ice age just yet.
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posted on
12/01/2009 12:02:07 PM PST
by
colorado tanker
(What's it all about, Barrrrry? Is it just for the power, you live?)
To: AJKauf
If the glaciers and polls have melted why has the sea not risen?
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posted on
12/01/2009 12:37:01 PM PST
by
mountainlion
(concerned conservative.)
To: AJKauf
What? Now people who make typos are responsible for global warming? I’m definitely srcewed — if they ban typos, I’ll have to stop psoting.
To: colorado tanker
There appears to be a strong correlation between global temps and the solar cycle (See
Maunder Minimum, which correlated with the "Little Ice Age", as well as Dalton Minimum, etc). The 20th-Century warming trend correlated with the Modern Maximum, and now the solar cycle looks like we're heading into another Dalton-type minimum.
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posted on
12/01/2009 1:01:15 PM PST
by
PapaBear3625
(Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
To: AJKauf
Now that's a hoot. The real number was 2350, but apparently it was misread and misreported by someone as 2035.
I'm a victim of dyslexia
Can't tell left from wrong my right!
Apologies to Pinkard and Bowden. I probably screwed up the lyrics.
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posted on
12/01/2009 1:02:20 PM PST
by
6ppc
(It's torch and pitchfork time)
To: PapaBear3625
Thanks!
I think what we'll eventually find when our scientists get off this AGW snipe hunt they're on, is that the driver of these long and short term cycles is solar cycles, perhaps with some other things going on, like changes in ocean currents.
Boy, if you're right about going into another Dalton-type minimum that means a few decades of cooling, which would really send these guys into a funk. 'Course, by the end of it they'd be talking about anthropogenic global cooling. :-))
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posted on
12/01/2009 1:39:46 PM PST
by
colorado tanker
(What's it all about, Barrrrry? Is it just for the power, you live?)
To: xcamel
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posted on
12/01/2009 1:51:32 PM PST
by
GOPJ
(Anthropogenic global warming-the most costly and widespread scientific FRAUD in history-James Lewis)
To: AJKauf; Delacon; Thunder90; Entrepreneur; Defendingliberty; Nervous Tick; 4horses+amule; WL-law; ...
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posted on
12/01/2009 4:35:04 PM PST
by
steelyourfaith
(Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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