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The big beef (Ontario man investigated for buying and slaugtering a pig. Muslims on his side)
The Ottawa Citizen ^ | December 8, 2009 | David Gonczol

Posted on 12/09/2009 12:00:38 PM PST by fanfan

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To: Rebelbase

>> These laws are designed to reduce self-sufficiency with the eventual long term goal of making all the population wards of the state. <<

The bad thing is a lot of people who support these regulations think they are “doing a public service” by protecting people from themselves and they don’t realize they are empowering the power grabbers.


21 posted on 12/09/2009 12:25:10 PM PST by GraceG
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To: Oberon
My father told me a couple of weeks ago that the church could no longer sell farm-cured hams as a fund-raiser... the local board of health had shut them down. They haven't had home-brewed root beer at the summer church festivals since I was a kid, and you can't buy unpasteurized apple cider anywhere any more... not even at the mill.

It's the health and safety brigade. we saw it first in England. We need to tell them to stay the heck out of our lives.

22 posted on 12/09/2009 12:28:20 PM PST by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: Rebelbase

It appears to be working to a large extent.


23 posted on 12/09/2009 12:29:17 PM PST by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: fanfan

He does live in Canuckistan, so I wonder what he expects.

Too bad he isn’t raising medical marijuana...I’ll bet he would not have got that kind of response from The Laws...


24 posted on 12/09/2009 12:29:33 PM PST by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts....)
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To: fanfan

>> There is much more detail at the link, but apparently a farmer may slaughter an animal for the consumption of his own immediate family, but can not even serve that meat to a dinner guest.

Mark Tijssen, with a friend, had purchased a pig he didn’t raise himself, and slaughtered it in his garage. After properly butchering it, he gave 1/2 of the meat to the friend, As she was puling out of his driveway, the Ministry of Natural Resources and police pounced.

There is way more at the link.

Get off our backs, government! <<

Yeah, I read that too, so you cannot give meat to your neighbor or else it is jail and fine time for you. No good deed ever goes unpunished.... does it?


25 posted on 12/09/2009 12:31:08 PM PST by GraceG
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To: Oberon
My father told me a couple of weeks ago that the church could no longer sell farm-cured hams as a fund-raiser... the local board of health had shut them down. They haven't had home-brewed root beer at the summer church festivals since I was a kid, and you can't buy unpasteurized apple cider anywhere any more... not even at the mill.

My employer's city in North Texas recently had a Corporate Challenge, with companies competing against each other in athletic events. It ended with a ceremony and a cake contest. Get this: the cakes had to be store bought. You could decorate them with your own icing, but you couldn't bake the cake yourself.

26 posted on 12/09/2009 12:31:58 PM PST by DallasDeb (USAFA '06 Mom)
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To: fanfan

Gosh - I raised chickens as a kid for about 5 or 6 years.
I couldn’t count how many got harvested for the BBQ pit.

I guess if I did that now and lived in Ottowa I’d be in deep trouble.


27 posted on 12/09/2009 12:39:05 PM PST by Verbosus (/* No Comment */)
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To: Oberon
Unpasteurized apple cider can send you on a real trip if any of those apples were dropped to the ground and picked up as culls for the cider press.

There are all sorts of diseases lurking about orchards, many of them dropped behind by deer.

28 posted on 12/09/2009 12:41:20 PM PST by muawiyah (Git Out The Way)
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To: fanfan

In these dark days secrecy is the only shield we will have against predatory governance.

Hide who you are and what you do from anyone you can’t trust implicitly. Work under cover of darkness to conceal anything what might draw the attention of neighbors who might just have your “Best Interests” in mind when they place that phone call to the Gestapo.

People must understand they are under the heel of an occupying force and behave appropriately.


29 posted on 12/09/2009 12:42:31 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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To: fanfan

It’s not just Canada.

We used to sell goat’s milk to many families who had children allergic to Cows milk (or the hormones in them). Many of our friend had legal dairies for unpasturized milk.

Not anymore & remember they raided that family who had a food co-op in thier house. Also the RFID chips are back in play to identify animals even if raised for you own consumption.

It will be here soon enough.


30 posted on 12/09/2009 12:43:19 PM PST by call meVeronica
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To: D Rider
I had no idea Canadians were so screwed.

See post #10, and any thread about Obama, and then get back to me.

;-)

31 posted on 12/09/2009 12:44:09 PM PST by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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“I had no idea Canadians were so screwed.”

One, this is an Ontario law, not Canada in general.

Two, many places in the US are just as screwed. Sometimes even more so. Like the law that made selling children’s minibikes and ATVs essentially illegal because the level of lead contained in the aluminum parts (and battery) is too high, despite the fact that the chances of a child ever putting these things in their mouths is essentially zero.

These are all just symptoms of the nanny-statism that has infected every developed nation.


32 posted on 12/09/2009 12:44:47 PM PST by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like ox.)
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33 posted on 12/09/2009 12:46:08 PM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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People must understand they are under the heel of an occupying force and behave appropriately.

Absolutely.

34 posted on 12/09/2009 12:54:07 PM PST by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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What has this got to do with the Ministry of Natural Resources? What ever happened to Ministry of Agriculture and Food ? Even then it’s none of Queens Park business.

Government isn’t smart enough to tell me how to live my life but as Ayn Rand said

“The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.


35 posted on 12/09/2009 12:58:55 PM PST by Snowyman
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To: call meVeronica

“It’s” already everywhere.

:-(


36 posted on 12/09/2009 1:03:11 PM PST by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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What has this got to do with the Ministry of Natural Resources?

I had to check that before I posted.

MNR, wth? Why them?

Which brings up another Rand quote, "Rationality is the recognition of the fact that nothing can alter the truth and nothing can take precedence over that act of perceiving it."

37 posted on 12/09/2009 1:23:18 PM PST by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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Let them eat dirt

There is an interesting theory on Polio which addresses this very issue. Children who were allowed to play in dirt and get dirty seemed to have a greater immunity to the disease than were kids who were restricted in their playground activities and forced to continuously wash themselves........

38 posted on 12/09/2009 1:26:24 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (I want a hoochie-mama for Christmas, only a hoochie-mama will do............)
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To: fanfan
See post #10, and any thread about Obama, and then get back to me.

... and no more bake sales. You're right. So what your really saying is that there is no hope of returning to sanity. :(

39 posted on 12/09/2009 1:27:48 PM PST by D Rider
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To: muawiyah
Unpasteurized apple cider can send you on a real trip if any of those apples were dropped to the ground and picked up as culls for the cider press.

Heh... that was the primary source of our cider apples when I was a kid. We grew the apples and the deer ourselves. None of the three generations of the family on the place were ever hospitalized due to food-borne illnesses, however.

40 posted on 12/09/2009 1:32:22 PM PST by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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