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Copenhagen's sceptic conference thanks China for emitting CO2
Guardian (UK) ^ | 10 December 2009 10.57 GMT | John Vidal in Guardian Blog

Posted on 12/10/2009 7:06:08 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Hacked emails were from whistleblowers and Eskimos are happy: tales of the expected from climate sceptics


Chairman of the International Climate Science Coalition, Professor Tim Patterson, speaks at one of the sceptic side events at the Copenhagen summit. Photograph: Jens Dige/AP

The only clue I find to where the world's leading climate sceptics are meeting in Copenhagen is a large round sticker on a pavement outside a house down a side street. It depicts a happy-looking Eskimo standing on a clearly melting ice flow with a cheerful sun beaming down on him and his ice-cream under the words "Hurra global warming".

Up the stairs, the Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow is meeting. Seventy five people, mostly men over 50, are crushed into an ornate room whose walls and ceiling are covered in oil paintings.

Fred Singer, emeritus professor at the University of Virginia and co-author of a classic global warming denial book, is in full flow about "climategate" and how he believes scientists deliberately distort data:

"…..It's easy. You collect it from cities and where temperatures are higher because of the heat island effect… you misapply temperature trends; you mix data from buoys and ships, you hide raw data, try to avoid freedom of information requests, misuse the peer review process… cause editors to resign."

The audience is loving it. Singer is to denialists what George Monbiot is to environmentalists, a genuine superstar, full of statements and suggestions. "They [he does not specify who] control the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change process; they try to smear their opponents.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: carbonhagen; carbontrade; climategate; copenhagen; globalwarminghoax; globalwarmingscandal; gorebalism

1 posted on 12/10/2009 7:06:08 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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Beam me to Planet Gore !

2 posted on 12/10/2009 7:10:49 AM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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To: xcamel; SunkenCiv; Marine_Uncle; Fred Nerks; steelyourfaith; NormsRevenge; Oynx

At least we have some Global Warming Skeptics in Copenhagen.


3 posted on 12/10/2009 7:10:54 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
polar bear party
4 posted on 12/10/2009 7:11:44 AM PST by silverleaf (More folks being invited to the White House for Holiday parties than are being sent to Afghanistan)
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FReepmail me to get on or off

Climategate rundown (extensive)
Ping me if you find one I've missed.


This might be a copy of an earlier ping.
5 posted on 12/10/2009 7:13:47 AM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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From an enbedded link:

Climate sceptics: are they gaining any credence?

Hacked emails and a political victory in Australia have emboldened the denial lobby

James Randerson
Friday 4 December 2009 20.45 GMT


The 3rd Viscount Monckton of Brenchley aka Christopher Monckton is seen by his home at Carie, Loch Rannoch, Scotland. Photograph: Murdo Macleod

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As climate sceptics began unwrapping the package of illegally hacked emails sent by scientists at the University of East Anglia, they could have been forgiven for thinking that Christmas had come early. Just when even the US government had come round to the view that climate change was a serious man-made problem that needed radical international action, here apparently was the ammunition the sceptics needed to sway public opinion and again begin poking holes in the science of global warming.

The climate scientist at the centre of the row, Prof Phil Jones, stepped down temporarily as head of the university's climatic research unit on Thursday while an independent inquiry into the emails is carried out. He denies any suggestion that he manipulated or withheld data, but people on all sides of the debate agree that the affair has dented the public's trust in climate scientists.

The early gifts for the sceptics have not stopped there, though. On Wednesday, Australian prime minister Kevin Rudd's cap and trade bill was defeated in the senate by conservatives who are sceptical about global warming and greens who thought it was not radical enough. Rudd's opposition counterpart, who had supported the bill, was forced out in a sceptic-led coup.

In the UK, leading figures in the Conservative party came out on Thursday against David Cameron's stance on climate change and his "vote blue, get green" strategy. David Davis denounced what he called the green movement's "ferocious determination to impose hairshirt policies on the public". In response, the energy and climate change secretary, Ed Miliband, branded Davis and the former chancellor Lord Lawson "saboteurs" and "profoundly irresponsible" for endangering the chances of a deal at the UN climate summit at Copenhagen, which starts next week.

It is tempting to see all this as a rise in sceptical thinking as the world contemplates the economic consequences of massive cuts in its carbon emissions. But that is too simplistic, says Bob Ward, communications and policy director at the Grantham Research Institute at the London School of Economics, which is headed by Lord Stern. "I don't think there's been a rise in scepticism," he said. "All that's happening is that the sceptics are now down to a small enough group that they are able to band together and gloss over their differences."

The differences are huge. Some, like Christopher Monckton, a hereditary peer and former policy adviser to Margaret Thatcher, believe that climate change and the Copenhagen summit are part of a global conspiracy whipped up by former communists. "They are about to impose a communist world government," he told an audience in St Paul, Minnesota, during a tour of the US in October. "You have a president who has very strong sympathy with these points of view and he'll sign." Monckton has also been advising Ukip on its stance on climate change. The BNP leader, Nick Griffin, who will be part of the EU delegation to Copenhagen, also equates environmentalists and communists. "Climate change is their new theology … but the heretics will have a voice in Copenhagen and the truth will out. Climate change is being used to impose an anti-human utopia as deadly as anything conceived by Stalin or Mao."

6 posted on 12/10/2009 7:18:39 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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This thread has more ammo for skeptics:

Smoking Guns Across Australia: Where’s the warming? Looking at 16 other locations.

Evidence of very clear Fabrication of climate warming LIE

7 posted on 12/10/2009 7:21:37 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: All; JohnHuang2
Related thread :

Call it Carbonhagen: Joseph Farah rips rampant hypocrisy on display at climate summit

Includes additional words by freeper JohnHuang2

8 posted on 12/10/2009 7:31:31 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

God, tho I’m amazed Interpol didn’t snag&detain ‘em at Customs.

Those ‘deniers’ can be very dangerous to certain folks credibility and agenda. ;-)


9 posted on 12/10/2009 8:18:13 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. May yur bandwidth exceed your girth)
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uhh,, Good.


10 posted on 12/10/2009 8:25:14 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. May yur bandwidth exceed your girth)
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Those ‘deniers’ can be very dangerous to certain folks credibility and agenda. ;-)

I sure hope so!

We need all of the Help we can get.

Sen Inhofe is over there somewhere....

11 posted on 12/10/2009 8:56:24 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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Yea. At least there will some cool heads willing to speak on more honest terms.


12 posted on 12/10/2009 11:37:40 AM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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I chuckle everytime I see those endangered polar bears a having good time.....wonder what PETA would say?


13 posted on 12/10/2009 11:52:41 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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Looks like that penguin is having a rough time of it...


14 posted on 12/10/2009 1:26:15 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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Thanks Ernest.


15 posted on 12/10/2009 4:10:31 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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