Posted on 12/11/2009 1:50:29 PM PST by marktwain
It would be conveniently tidy for the story of last month’s Parkland police massacre to begin and end with recently-departed cop killer Maurice Clemmons; tidy for social apologists who never seem to run out of excuses for people like Clemmons, and tidy for people left in his wake. This is not a tidy world. If it were, Clemmons would still be in an Arkansas prison and the four police officers he gunned down would be looking forward to the holidays with their families. Clemmons, it is now evident, represents the tip of an iceberg that encompasses several relatives and some close friends; a group of individuals who – in the aftermath of the Nov. 29 murders – treated and helped hide the gunman while lying to police in the process, according to court documents detailing their alleged activities. Some are calling this bunch the “Clemmons Seven,” but a more accurate description might be “The extended family from Hell.”
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Huh? Are you a “don’t snitch” idiot? Do you seriously mean that these people shouldn’t have told the police about this relative?
True, but more to the point: They are ALWAYS investigating. If they aren't investigating YOU, that could change in an instant.
If it's not absolutely necessary to talk to the police, don't. If you do, be very careful, truthful and minimal with your mouth.
Parents, especially fathers are always prime suspects when a child is missing. Does this mean a father shouldn’t cooperate with police and give all info he can think of to get his child back?
Hardly. Just yesterday I helped catch a vandal and volunteered my contact information to the police. I am not naive, however, and I have seen too many innocent people be victimized by the system to think that it is perfect. I would guess that 95% of the time, the right people are arrested and put in jail. But, maybe 5% of the time, the injustice can be spectacular.
I am just advising people on commonsense things they can do to avoid being in that 5%.
If he is a suspect, he can do that through an attorney. Fathers, as a group, are a big target to some DA’s. He won't do his child any good in jail or prison.
"Thank you for your cooperation, citizen."
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Some are calling this bunch the “Clemmons Seven,” but a more accurate
description might be “The extended family from Hell.”
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That’s racist! (profiling an ongoing criminal enterprise of color)
(/SARC)
Honestly, crime families come in all the variations of melanin...
well, maybe not albinos!!!
Here’s another idea: don’t do things that would cause you to be investigated by the police.
How? Don’t get involved in criminal behavior. Don’t associate with those that do. Just because they’re family does not mean that you have to deal with them.
Nice advice, it may simply be impossible to follow, with all the best of intentions. There are so many laws today, and they are often so deliberately vague, that it is impossible for an ordinary citizen to avoid breaking the law.
Did you: Get all the proper permits before you dug that hole in your back yard? Is the plant you bought at the flea market to put in it allowed? Did you put a license on that canoe after you bought a motor for it at a garage sale? Did you drop your fishing line in the wrong stretch of river, where no signs were posted? Did you pick up a pretty feather from the wrong bird?
All of the above can be breaking the law.
I would agree with what you say in some circumstances, but not in this case. Are you excusing a gang of cop killers, who evidently also planned to go out and start shooting children?
There is one bit of police bad behavior, yes: “Not everyone on the Clemmons family tree is bad, of course. There is the aunt living in Seattle who, instead of helping the killer dodge arrest, actually tipped Seattle police to his possible whereabouts. She and her husband did the right thing, and for their good citizenship, a SWAT team trashed their home.” Maybe you were referring to that.
I don’t know what the hell it is about SWAT teams. But if these people tipped off the police, that was a hell of a way to respond.
Otherwise, who can blame the police for being angry about this? I hope they nail all of these accessories.
That's a good start, and I agree with you. But that's unfortunately not enough any more.
Watch the videos I link to in my post #3. You'll be glad you did.
The 5th Amendment isn't there to protect the guilty. It's to protect EVERYONE from a power-hungry government.
Has it ever occurred to you that they may be investigating a CRIME? How do you expect them to find out who killed your neighbor’s mother, stole your wife’s car, etc. unless they talk to you?
I am not excusing them at all. It is simply an illustration of how people who think they are being clever end up talking themselves into jail.
If it was my kid, I'd probably cooperate too, but I'd be very careful.
I believe that guy you’re talking about was a step-father which is very very bad, they are even eviler than fathers!
When there’s a step-father involved he’s automatically guilty.
Reread the post. It clearly “... Unless you are filing a complaint...” A cop talking to you when he is investigating a crime that you (or someone you are with) did not report considers you a suspect.
Anybody that paranoid should probably be on drugs.
Do you really, truly think this scum should have been protecting a family member he or she knew had just killed four decent cops at breakfast?
If you think that, you might want to take a look at your whole concept of society and the social contract.
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