[PreciousLiberty]

I guess AP couldn't be bothered to look at the computer code accompanying the emails. That is definitive, and damaging.

There is no reason to limit CO2, except for a desire for "Command and Control".

"Fake, but accurate." Right. We the people need to put an end to this foolishness!

[PreciousLiberty]

Someone snuck in just before me...please pull this thread. Sorry.

[Izzy Dunne]

according to an exhaustive review by The Associated Press

I can't read past this...

[Blennos]

These days I trust the Chinese News Agency and Pravda more than the despicable Associated Press.

[avacado]

In those emails they clearly discuss how the DID fudge the numbers to hide a decline. That *IS* faked data. The AP can go blow on it! I don't need those non-sciene majors telling me what is and isn't. I work with digital seismic data every day.

[bray]

How many scientists in the AP?? Course they couldn’t let a skeptical scientist look at them, rather believers explained them away.

Hey AP what does, “I added Mike’s Nature Trick to hide the decline” mean?

Pray for America’s Freedom

[allmendream]

“However, the exchanges don't undercut the vast body of evidence showing the world is warming because of man-made greenhouse gas emissions.”

Other than that the “warming” is only because they “hid the decline”, and that it has NEVER been conclusively established to what impact human activity has on it. Sure.

Previously I was willing to accept the ground based data that showed the Earth was warming, even in contradiction of the atmospheric readings that showed it was cooling.

Even if one accepts the warming trend (faked), nobody has shown that this was a bad thing, or that human activity was the cause.

Things were significantly warmer during the Medieval Warm Period, and it was NOT catastrophic. Alert me to the “problem” when it is HOTTER than the MWPeriod and still trending higher; until then..................

[steelyourfaith]

 

Beam me to Planet Gore !

[cookcounty]

"The scientists were so convinced by their own science and so driven by a cause "that unless you're with them, you're against them," said Mark Frankel, director of scientific freedom, responsibility and law at the American Association for the Advancement of Science. He also reviewed the communications.

"Frankel saw "no evidence of falsification or fabrication of data, although concerns could be raised about some instances of very 'generous interpretations.'"

For those looking for a scientific organization rigorously willing to follow the facts wherever they lead, AAAS would not be the organization you're looking for. It's a mutual protection racket.

[Carl LaFong]

We’ve now gone past Stage 1: Ignoring the story.
Entering stage 2: the “Fake, but accurate.” stage.
About stage 4 or 5 will come “Hell, we knew it was a scam all along”

[1776 Reborn]

“exhaustive review by The Associated Press”

Well then it is all settled if this “prestigious” group says so. ;-)

[marstegreg]

Its not the Science that is so much in question, it is the fact that any opposing science was omitted. If you put some one on trial and only present a defense the criminal gets freed. That is why there are 2 sides, so that we can make up our own minds. Apparently they didn’t want us to do that, so in effect, they made up our minds for us. That’s why this is so wrong. That’s why this is propaganda.

[R0CK3T]

In the Aerospace Industry this is what is known as DRYLABBING the data.

Any flight hardware or analysis product that ever comes from this Obamanation is purged and destroyed before the system in question is allowed to resume operation.

Can you imagine if you boarded an airlplanr and just prior to takeoff the captain comes on over the PA system to let you know that the analytical data for the wing design was drylabbed - but not to worry all is fine?

Now extend that relationship to the Global Warming analyses.

This model is how the Aerospace Industry operates, and the prime customer for their products is the the US Government. A little ironic if you asked me.

[Mobties]

After all the AP has done to spin, bury, and fabricate the news, I wouldn’t expect it to be able to discern truth .... or evidence of falsification .... if it jumped out and bit the AP on its nose.

[FrankR]

"LONDON – E-mails stolen from climate scientists..."

They never miss a chance to throw in the word "stolen" when it comes to the climategate emails, do they? But, as I said before, even if they had been "stolen", it is the content of the emails and WHO wrote them that counts...not where they came from.


"The 1,073 e-mails examined by the AP..."

That's where I stopped reading...if the AP has anything to do with anything, you can bet it is hard left, and factually inaccurate.

Journalism Majors "examining" anything is cause to worry, it would be like algore performing an appendectomy...

[swatbuznik]

To paraphrase Monty Python, “Spin, Spin, Spin, Spin, Spinnity-Spin!!”

[G Larry]

Dear AP,
The data was faked, the “science” was nonexistent and the purported conclusions are fraudulent!
There is NO global warming, CO2 is NOT a pollutant, and the whole issue is about government control over our lives and the redistribution of wealth.

[olezip]

LONDON – E-mails stolen from climate scientists show they stonewalled skeptics and discussed hiding data — but the messages don't support claims that the science of global warming was faked, according to an exhaustive review by The Associated Press.

But the liberal AP has no scientific expertise to examine the substance of the fraud and cover up by the warmers, nor do they have the expertise to even understand the science issues, IMO. I would look for a vested interest in the AGW alchemists in order to identify their bias and vested interests.

Given billions $s are being spent to somehow prove that climate change is caused by man, many scientists and politicians stand to benefit by the draconian measures being taken based on a false premise.

[olivia3boys]

Funny that it was the comments in the computer code that was so damaging.

I do some coding (VBA) for my job, and recently I’ve been using the phrase “climate change is a hoax!” in my test msgboxes that I later comment out—and I smile every time. . .

[steveab]

“... evidence showing the world is warming because of man-made greenhouse gas emissions.”

What evidence of Man made greenhouse emissions? There is, of course, “Mann made evidence” of Global Warming.

[upcountryhorseman]

The “science” is inconclusive since you a record of 500
years to prove or disprove human caused climate change.
Tree rings show that there was a long period of draught
and heat long before human appearance on earth.