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To: Sherman Logan

Are you saying there’s no way to recall an office holder once in office?

As you know, the founding fathers felt the senators from each state would be more responsible to the people if approved by the state governments. For the same reason the state legislatures can select the electoral voters. Of course I doubt if there are any state legislators with the gonads to ever stand up and do it when they know that voter fraud is rampant. So, in that case, I guess you’re right. Nothing would be any different. We’d still have the best politicians money can buy.

I thought all legislation was supposed to originate in the house. Am I wrong on this? I’m getting old and my memory ain’t what it used to be and I’m too lazy to go look it up.


46 posted on 12/21/2009 3:21:58 PM PST by Terry Mross (It's not racist if it's true.)
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To: Terry Mross
Are you saying there’s no way to recall an office holder once in office?

Not a federal office holder. It's not in the Constitution.

An executive branch or judicial branch office holder can be impeached and removed from office by Congress. A congressman or senator can be expelled by vote of his chamber. But there's no way for the voters to remove an officeholder prior to the next election.

I thought all legislation was supposed to originate in the house.

All financial measures must originate in the House. This was intended by the Founders to give the house most directly responsible to the people the "power of the purse," as the Commons did in England.

Hasn't really worked that way. It's pretty much a formality at this point. Most financial measures are in reality initiated by the President.

47 posted on 12/22/2009 5:28:04 AM PST by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: Terry Mross
As you know, the founding fathers felt the senators from each state would be more responsible to the people if approved by the state governments.

In actual fact, the Senate was intentionally designed to be less responsible (and responsive) to the people. That's why they were given a six-year term and indirect election. They were supposed to provide the long term POV and resistance to popular enthusiasms of the old Roman Senate and the British House of Lords.

The Founders were scared to death of straight democracy. In the entire federal government, as originally set up, only the Representatives were directly elected by the People. Hence their name.

48 posted on 12/22/2009 5:32:08 AM PST by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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